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8/10
If You Can't Have the Real Thing – You Do All Kinds of Unreal Things.
aimless-4618 January 2010
I first saw "Deep End" shortly after its release, it played at the base theater during my Air Force days. Films on base ran for only one day (three shows) and this was one of a handful that drew capacity crowds to the later shows due to "word of mouth" praise by those who attended the first screening. I finally got the opportunity to view it again last week and was not disappointed.

About all I recalled from my long ago first viewing was the Jane Asher full-size cardboard stand-up and the color red. Meaning that director Jerzy Skolimowski managed to create some powerful imagery that stayed in my mind over all those years, which is more than I can say for a lot of films. My association of the color red now makes perfect sense as that was obviously the imagery that Skolimowski meant to drill into each viewer's mind. From Asher's red hair (in the film itself and in the promotional poster where it trails off into blood), to the new color being painted on the walls of the bathhouse, to the blood that punctuates certain climatic moments in the story.

Skolimowski was Polanski's screenwriter for "Knife In the Water" and stylistically "Deep End" has a Polanski flavor (it certainly has its "Repulsion" moments). I was also reminded of a Judy Geeson film from about the same time "Goodbye Gemini" (1970); a London setting and a doomed pair of mismatched lovers. If you are looking for a more useful comparison think of a bizarre marriage of "The Summer of 42" (1971) and "Play Misty For Me" (1971).

But "Deep End" is too grounded to be overwrought; its romantic obsession - coming of age story rings surprisingly true. Probably because the gritty is evenly blended with the abstract in a storyline that nicely cuts between accidental and destined.

Just out of school, 15 year-old Mike (John Moulder-Brown) goes to work as the towel boy at a seedy London bath house. Asher plays Sue, an older co-worker who reveals that some of the clientèle are good for extra money in exchange for titillation in the private rooms. In an extraordinary scene an aging Diana Dors explores Mike's interest in football (soccer).

Sue is a mega-tease; she is stringing along a rich fiancée, having regular private sessions with one of Mike's former teachers, servicing assorted clients at the baths, and getting her perverse kicks turning on Mike. Sue is not atypical in her level of irresponsibility and Mike is not atypical in his level of naiveté. Stuff like this plays out everyday. But Mike's obsession begins to get a bit twisted when he first realizes that Sue and his former teacher have a relationship. And Skolimowski goes from broken mirror to ripped poster to broken glass to blood; substituting visual images for overwrought melodrama. Glass (mirror, fire alarm, diamond, light bulb) substitutes for Mike's fragile psyche and distorted perception, pictures (the PSA poster on the bulletin board and the cut-out girl Mike steals) substitute for a normal boy-girl relationship, and paint and hair substitute for blood.

"Deep End" is a film in motion, it never slows down and its scene transitions run from excellent to lame. I don't remember the theatrical showing well enough to say whether the version I just watched was intact. But I suspect that it has been hacked up and trimmed, which would explain the more inexplicable scene transitions. There is some support for this notion in that it has been converted into a 4-3 aspect ratio and has lost all the end credits except a few bars of the same Cat Stevens song that ran over the opening titles. If it ever gets a DVD release I hope they can find a better example to digitize.

The best way to understand it is to be open to the interplay of Skolimowski's images, these provide the texture of his film. The story may appear to be being told from Mike's point of view but it is the texture that allows the viewer to go beneath the surface of the deep end and to see the dance between love and death. Then again, what do I know? I'm only a child.
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6/10
Dive Right Into the "Deep End"
mikhail08015 July 2010
What starts out as a tender coming-of-age story devolves into a story of sexual obsession and missed connections in "Deep End." The story has bicycle riding teenager Mike starting his first job at a run-down public bathhouse which caters to both men and women. There is also an Olympic sized pool in the facility, which is utilized by scores of teenage girls. Mike's pretty but jaded coworker Susan is on hand to show him the ropes, and soon their mild flirtation begins to prompt Mike into increasingly bizarre stalker behavior.

The cinematography here is outstanding, with every stain, crack and spot of dirt in the grimy bathhouse evident. It certainly appears to be a place where any sensible person would hesitate to walk barefoot through, and the sets are loaded with strange signage and bizarre props. The exterior locations are expertly filmed also, and give a great impression of the U.K. at the end of the 1960's.

The acting of the two young leads is top-notch and utterly believable at all turns, with John Moulder-Brown especially likable and appealing. And certainly special mention must be made to former glamor girl Diana Dors as a blowzy blond bathhouse patron with a sexual fixation on football. She holds nothing back in her cameo appearance, and she's fantastic in the limited screen time devoted to her physically aggressive and domineering character.

Some objection could be made to the somewhat speedy manner in which Mike's character transforms from nice teenager into obsessed stalker. Some of this didn't seem too believable, although Asher as Susan is beautiful enough to almost make it work. Mike begins the film as such a sweet young guy who's concerned about his future and his family, that's it's almost unfathomable as to why he'd go off the "deep end" like he does.

*** out of *****
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8/10
obsession in run down public swimming pool
RanchoTuVu9 July 2010
A teenage boy's first job is as an attendant who brings towels and other items to an odd clientele at a public bath house that is equipped with what appears to be an olympic sized swimming pool. He immediately falls for his co-worker, a young woman in her twenties, who leads him on a bit out of fun, and even has some sexual interest in him as we see in one scene when she spies him putting his pants on. While she remains detached he goes from infatuation to obsession, following her and her fiancé around town after hours. However the more important action occurs in the bathhouse which looks run-down and is photographed in its drabby and richly dark colors. The place itself is as as much importance as are the two main characters, the boy who is coming of age and the object of his obsession, his pretty young co-worker. In an ideal setting things would have been different, but here the decrepit bathhouse seems to influence the events in a darker and mildly disturbing way. Within it occurs the film's climax, in the pool, with the two of them, his obsession,and her sexy acquiesence, leading to the ending that makes this a movie that you may not always think about, but probably won't forget.
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My life in the "Deep End," and yours, too
fastfilmhh21 March 2007
Okay, here's a cine-challenge. There are some films that take you back to a particular time in your life at absolute warp speed. Frequently, these films are reasonably universal, but their associations might be obfuscated, personal and subjective, never understood even by your friends unless explained. One such film, which chronicled absolute obsessive teenage love and its destructiveness was a wake-up call to a frequent, formerly obsessive type, myself in my misspent youth. This and the film's innate mastery instantly time-travel me back to days that were simultaneously more innocent and more complicated than today, late night smoky college discussions in a candle-lit apartments.

And that film would be "Deep End" directed by Jerzy Skowlimowski, pal of Roman Polanski, with the same great mix of bizarre sensibilities and takes on life, done in professional, Hollywood-caliber production, even if on an indie budget.

It's from 1970, featuring music by Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam now to the non-infidel) and two unbelievably strong leads: a 15-year-old John Moulder Brown and 25-year-old Jane Asher (Paul McCartney's 1960's trophy girlfriend.) I never even knew Asher had these acting chops: she outdoes Susan Sarandon (similar upper class background) for letting us in on the nuances of a naturally pretty, fairly low-class young person. Moulder-Brown was the go-to kid for late 60's/early 70's films that required a teen to actually act. (Both are still working, happily.)

This is a dance of death pas de deux between a teen boy working at a grimy public pool in Britain, all hormones and eagerness, and his slightly older female co-worker, who's both a beauty and a inveterate tease. These two should never have been allowed to work together, as he quickly fixates on her, stalks her, and she tries to control the situation with her normal, over the top sexual flirting. It's pretty light and entertaining for a while, then it goes south. . . The title is "Deep End," after all. I've rarely seen a such a disturbing, creepy film about young lust that still has you rooting for everyone involved, no matter how wrongly they both behave. That's the sign of a sure cinematic touch.
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7/10
Idosyncratic but Interesting coming-of-age Drama
BJJManchester7 March 2012
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For many years a somewhat obscure and unseen semi-avant garde melodrama,DEEP END has had a recent revival in digitally restored fashion in cinema,DVD and television,and has an undercurrent of strangeness running through it's entire oeuvre.Set in post-swinging 60's London,but an American/West German co-production directed by Polish-born Jerzy Skolimowski mostly filmed in Germany,with an eclectic cast and musical score,a dubious story and related characters.This overall oddness does not necessarily equate to greatness,but DEEP END still nevertheless manages to hold the attention throughout.

A decidedly gauche,awkward 15 year old youth,Mike (John Moulder-Brown) starts his first job at a grimy,dilapidated London municipal bathhouse,and falls in love with a beautiful but uninhibited female co-worker,Susan (Jane Asher),a few years older than him.Susan is apparently engaged but uses and exploits other males for her own pleasure,including the hapless Mike himself.The attraction gradually seems to become more mutual,if dangerous.

Coming at the end of the optimistic,happy-go-lucky 60's and populated with rather unlikable characters,DEEP END is packed with so much symbolism as to be in peril from drowning in it.The setting of the seedy,crumbling bathhouse is an obvious metaphor for being literally thrown into the deep rather than shallow end of life,with the related problems,frustrations and behaviour on show signifying this.For a while,DEEP END comes across as a familiar but wispily charming essay on the pains of growing up,with an amusing cameo from Diana Dors (who became a better actress as she got into early middle-age),holding Mike to her bosom while mumbling platitudes about football,though it's not long before it all becomes progressively darker,with dubious behaviour from a male swimming instructor (who Susan has a dalliance with) towards young female students,and an increasingly unhealthy relationship between Mike,so wet behind the ears as to be soaking,and the voluptuous Susan.

Moulder-Brown is fine as the hopelessly naive adolescent,though as with many teens his character's behaviour and traits often becomes very irritating,while Ms Asher is convincing as his and other males object of desire,outrageously sexy and knowing it,teasing and cajoling as many males as she can muster,mostly for her own entertainment and amusement in the skimpiest clothing imaginable.

With all this symbolism (such as Mike stealing a cardboard life size poster of Susan from London's underground) and semi-Freudian obsession,DEEP END has little in the way of plot,and much of the cast are not British but mainland European (mainly German).This sometimes gets in the way of authenticity for the more pessimistic mood of late 60's/early 70's London (not surprising as much of the film was apparently filmed in Munich),and Skolimowski often seems not to have an ear for the English language,with some scenes allowed to ramble with somewhat stilted dubbed and non-dubbed dialogue.There is much use of hand-held camera and other scenes which have an improvised feel,which is not necessarily a bad thing as said moments have a more spontaneous,humorous and natural feel to them.

Such locations as the bathhouse and Soho (which features a funny cameo from Burt Kwouk) add to a sense of decline and seediness while observing the dubious behaviour of the main and secondary characters involved,which inevitably leads to the climax in the swimming pool,with the symbolism at it's height as it being empty and drained of water,but there is a twist in store.....

With it's dreary,seedy setting and unsympathetic characters,DEEP END could have been utterly disposable,yet it's very style deem it oddly compulsive and curiously watchable,with it's best moments reserved for it's finale with haunting and extraordinary imagery that linger in the mind long afterwards,confirming it's reputation of being a bizarre,rediscovered cult classic.

RATING:7 out of 10.
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10/10
Great Unique Sleeper
jlabine20 July 2000
I had been searching for this gem for nearly 15 years, until I found it. When I did, it was as good as I imagined! The film follows the adolescent obsession of a 15 year old (John Moulder Brown) seedy (Newford) Bath House attendent. He falls under the romantic spell of a red haired tease (brilliantly played by Jane Asher), that toys with his emotions to the brink of taking him over the mental "deep end". Director Jerzy Skolimowski's film is so unique that it deals with the mind set of a sexually inexperienced youth in a way that is comedic, sensitive, and yet totally insane. Parts of the character reminded me of a darker Max Fletcher (the child character in "Rushmore") and a less calculating Tom Ripley (see "The Talented Mr. Ripley"), but totally immerssed in a Mod London invironment that is saturated in sex and seediness. What strikes me as interesting, is that you can never tell if London was meant to be represented in such a sexual red light, or if this is all just how the protaganist views London with sexually curious eyes of puberty? My one criticism towards John Moulder Brown is his English accent tends to sound more proper rather than lower class Cockney, which would have suited the story's angle. Jane Asher's performance however is truly amazing! Her use of the dialog, is completely naturalistic in approach. I always feel as an eavesdropper to someone's private conversation. Check out the scene in which her and John Moulder Brown are trying to retrieve a diamond from a pile of snow, and sprinkled in the dialog are comments of her being hungry (it would seem strange to see those lines written in the script, which leaves me to think it may be improvised?). And when she tells off the Gym Teacher (one of her lovers) and then continues to work on finding her diamond. Totally improvised and naturalistic!!! As a person like myself who studies acting, I was quite impressed by her acting, and am saddened that she has not appeared in more films (she seems to be mostly known for being the ex-girlfriend of Paul McCartney). The music soundtrack to the film is of great interest as well. It contains the song "But I Might Die Tonight" by Cat Stevens as the title track, and different variations of that theme supplied by either Cat Stevens or (Kraut rock group) Can. It also contains one of Can's most amazing tracks "Mother's Sky" in a great scene where the boy stalks his obsession to a London Club, then to a seedy Nude Girl joint which contains a cardboard cut out of her, then to an out-of-commision prostitute, and then finally to the London Underground where he confronts Jane Asher. All done with the surreal mind, of what only a 15 year old could conjure up. The film contains many surreal moments, in which the boy sinks to the bottom of a pool and eyes a naked woman swimming underneath him. Or when the boy jumps off a diving board and lands on top of the cardboard cut out in a pool. He again sinks to the bottom holding the cut out as if it was her. This film captures the complete frustration of that age, and the yearning to be a part of the sexually grown up world that is just out of reach, but keeps getting dipped towards your hands by a taller, more mature (?) tease. Unfortunately, teasing an imature boy can also have very horrible consequences. Highly recommended!!! One of my all time favourite films!!! I give it a 10!!
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7/10
Odd but affecting
neil-47631 March 2012
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Young Mike, fresh out of school and somewhat unworldly, gets his first job in a seedy public baths and swimming bath in an unnamed part of London. Showing him the ropes is Susan, a strikingly lovely redhead in her mid-20s, and well-versed in her abilities to make a few bob on the side from the, er, ancillary services which can be offered. Mike falls for Susan, hook line and sinker and Susan, well aware of this, derives some amusement from leading him on, little realising just how serious it is for him.

I saw this film a couple of times when it came out in 1970 and, now it has reappeared, it is interesting to watch it with eyes which are now nearly 60, and not 18. It is essentially a rather seedy kitchen sink drama, told with some humour and, ultimately tragedy.

At its heart are two performances. As Mike, John Moulder-Brown has the right fish-out-of-water look as the obsessed adolescent who hasn't got a clue but, for me, his performance never really convinces. However, as Susan, Jane Asher is a revelation. She made a successful transition from child to adult acting but then never seemed to pursue an adult screen career with commitment. On the strength of Deep End, this is a great loss: Susan, not a very nice person, is nonetheless nuanced with a multitude of emotional shades, and Asher is stunningly good.
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9/10
The Price of Infatuated Love...
tim-764-2918567 April 2012
Deep End is so true to Life - for any teenage boy who becomes infatuated with an older (but young and sensual) woman who he then sees romantically with a chauvinistic and nasty man - he wants to 'save' her.

But where any of us ordinary young men would have long stopped their pursuance of justice, young Mike here takes things to the very end, fulfilling the dreams of us mere mortals. You know all along that he'll never get the girl, that's never in any doubt, but the madness as is pushes him further into trouble.

That Mike's (John Moulder-Brown) 15 and just out of school and his first boss is the gorgeous and sexually aware Jane Asher and his job entails attending to allsorts at some public baths, including some randy older women, no wonder his hormones are all over the place.

It all starts out as light-hearted nonsense (the incorrigible Diana Dors scene a real hoot) but gradually gets darker, to a jet black and tragic end. The ending is one of the most profound and well mounted that I've witnessed and every frame of it perfectly staged.

In between, we have the fumblings of a sexually naive lad, he who gets his first pay packet and it goes to his head, finding that the bright lights of a (pretend, film was shot in Munich) Soho turn his few pounds to mere pennies as he goes from club to club. But, all he's actually doing is stalking the girl that he works with, as he sees how her 'other', more glamorous life, away from the bleach and rubber gloves at the baths, is both lived - and funded.

True, John Moulder-Brown's acting lacks depth, or finesse, but imagine a 15 year old actually in those scenarios. He'd be even more blunt and less eloquent that Mike is in this.

As others have said, this is a true little gem of a film. How so much was actually said about human emotion in such a relatively short film is extraordinary. There were a few really good movies around at that time that covered similar-ish ground (Michael Powell's "Peeping Tom", for example) that weren't appreciated fully then, but seen perhaps as novelty voyeuristic films, only for the 'specialist' viewer. And, of course, thanks to the BFI for restoring it to a crystal-clear and beautiful print.
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6/10
John Moulder Brown gets That Sinking Feeling for Jane Asher
wes-connors18 January 2010
Cute working class fifteen-year-old John Moulder-Brown (as Mike) gets a job an attendant in a London bathhouse and falls "head-over-heels" in love with his co-worker, sexy red-haired Jane Asher (as Sue). He meets "ladies of a certain age," like overweight Diana Dors, "who favours young boys" - but, Mr. Moulder-Brown can't stop fantasizing about the delectable Ms. Asher; she was the inspiration for many of The Beatles' love songs, "And I Love Her"...

"Deep End" is an imaginatively shot, by Jerzy Skolimowski with Charly Steinberger, story involving obsessive teenage love, with Moulder-Brown very effectively essaying the "mature for his age" protagonist. You also get a good look at Ms. Asher as an actress, which she was before achieving world-wide fame as a Paul McCartney's first significant relationship. The film's ending is somewhat disappointing; it certainly could have been more... electric.

****** Deep End (3/18/71) Jerzy Skolimowski ~ John Moulder-Brown, Jane Asher, Diana Dors, Karl Michael Vogler
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10/10
Really rare, really powerful, really necessary, and really amazing movie
Polaris_DiB14 September 2008
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I may be getting out of line, here, but there's a point in most male adolescent development for the search for sex takes on an overly aggressive, practically sadistic aspect that is for the most part entirely contrary and disturbing, so that it's hardly often mentioned except as one of those "confused thoughts" that teen men get. This time of life is usually quickly passed; barely anybody acts on those impulses because its too seedy and antisocial, most boys outgrow it, and the majority of them end up having other, more positive formative experiences that allows them to leave that part of themselves behind. Nevertheless, the obsessive quality of male sexual development is not all that often given its own movie, as the results are as disturbing as this one. Jerzy Skolimowski writes and directs a movie about a 15 year old boy who, having been thrust into the work place and a world of underlying sex and violence he doesn't comprehend, loses all sense of social normative awareness and quite literally goes off the deep end.

Mike (John Moulder-Brown) is out of school and gets his first job. He's immediately smitten by the ten-year-older Susan (Jane Asher) who, unfortunately for Mike, is a confused aged-beyond-her-years tease and man-user who has no real way of interpreting the world around her except by sleeping and flirting with other men for her gain: her fiancé because he's rich, even if he is a tool and ridiculously clueless; her ex-swim coach because he's older and has given her a job; and now Mike because of his persistence and insistence in getting her attention and approval.

With no other life to distract him, no money to support him, nothing but his low-class existence and his desire for Susan, Mike quickly goes from a crush to confused love to stalking to outright obsession, with absolutely no awareness of the negative effect of his actions. This all, keep in mind, is set in 70s England, where law enforcement is ridiculously incompetent, sexual taboos have gone past being broken to being downright dysfunctional, and social confusion and decay has set permanently into the mold of the city. Everything is seedy, dirty, and disturbingly sexualized. Movie theatres offer ridiculous porn, clubs that couples go to are adult clubs, and the lower classes essentially wander the streets looking for things to blow their load on (monetarily and otherwise). British cinema is typically soaked in class consciousness, and Jerzy shows his affinity for that awareness even if he's not British himself.

This movie is a masterpiece. The cinematography is beautiful, with some of the most profound changes in the story saturated in red, a lot of shifting light values, and camera movements that get the viewer stuck into the head of little Mike, especially in one superb set-up in the veranda of an adult club, a moment as profound, unbalanced, and nauseating as the movie eventually becomes as a whole. The acting is beyond superb, and led by a script that manages to make some of the most dreadful people into relatable, tear-inducing tragic characters. Mike is driven to symbolically (and maybe even "literally" works too) submerge himself into Asher's body (not that a blame him) and the psychosexual tumble into morbid insanity (that's where I do blame him for his actions) is even more compelling than even films like Vertigo. Music by Cat Stevens and The Can gives a suspenseful backdrop, and the mise-en-scene is laced with the pessimism felt subconsciously in the 70s.

Deep End is one of those movies of which I can understand completely why it's hard to come by: it strikes a little too closely to the most unmentioned, unacknowledged aspect of male fantasy, and it doesn't relieve any of it with comedy or a happy ending, preferring instead to close on a strikingly symbolic final shot with absolutely no credits to follow (read: no time to sit and collect one's self after viewing--in keeping with the Hitchcock comparison, think The Birds, only more realistic and damning). That said, it's honestly one of the best movies I've ever seen and should be much more well-known and appreciated, in my opinion. The screening I attended was introduced by the owner of the theatre who claimed that we were watching one of the only extant prints in the entire United States. I've seen quite a lot of rare and underground cinema over the past couple of years, but the knowledge of this movie's marginalization truly hits me in the heart. Hopefully it will keep passing on from theatre to theatre until somebody with a lot of disposable income and a little interest decides to give it a treatment to open it up to a larger audience. Maybe they weren't ready in the 70s to watch this. I don't think very many people are ready now. But hopefully it'll safely find a bigger audience.

--PolarisDiB
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7/10
Very unlikely
JasparLamarCrabb16 January 2010
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An exceptional, unlikely coming-of-age film from Jerzy Skolimowski. John Moulder-Brown gets a job at a public bath house and is soon smitten with co-worker Jane Asher. Asher, who's seeing two other men, could care less. It's by no means straightforward. Instead DEEP END is gritty, funny, and ultimately tragic. That should be no surprise coming from the idiosyncratic Skolimowski. His films are always a mix of genres. Moulder-Brown is terrific as a the awkward adolescent and Asher has what is probably her best (certainly most substantial) film role. They have great chemistry together. There's also an oddball supporting cast including Erica Beer as the bath's bitchy cashier and one-time sexpot Diana Dors as one of Moulder-Brown's kinkier clients. Karl Michael Vogler gives a fine performance as one of Asher's callous lovers. The music is by Cat Stevens though its sparsely used.
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8/10
Fascinating drama
The_Void23 September 2009
Deep End is a practically unheard of film these days - but it's a surprisingly good one that urgently needs a bigger audience. The film is basically a coming of age story involving young love and teenage angst. Despite the fact that everything in this film has been seen before in other films, it all comes together well and doesn't feel like it's just rethreading old ground, which is very much to it's credit. Writer-director Jerzy Skolimowski does a really good job of telling his story too, which means that deep End is an easy film to get along with. The title refers to the film's central location - a swimming pool. We focus on Mike, a young lad fresh out of school who has just got his first job as a pool attendant at the local bath house. On his first day, he meets the beautiful Susan and falls head over heels in love with her. Trouble is, Susan already has a fiancé and while she kind of likes Mike, she doesn't take him seriously...leading Mike to become frustrated and willing to do anything in order to have Susan all for himself.

The two central performers are really good and responsible for a lot of the film's success. Jane Asher is absolutely beautiful and it's easy to see why she'd have a young lad lusting after her. Horror fans will likely recognise John Moulder-Brown from classic horror The House That Screamed, as well as Hammer Horror Vampire Circus. He's good here too, and expertly captures the immaturely and lust of youth. The film itself is always interesting and the director keeps the central relationship at the forefront of the film, which helps to keep things interesting. The film is set in 1970's London, and the director does a good job of capturing the gritty feel of the city. A lot of the film takes place inside a swimming baths, but sequences that take place in sleazy corners of the city are among the best of the film. The director does have an eye for sleaze too - some of the bath house punters are rather shady characters, and we've also got scenes set inside a prostitute's room and an adult movie theatre. The ending is iconic and memorable, and manages to tie up all the film's central themes. Overall, this really is a very good film that more people need to see!
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6/10
Gritty and depressing but powerful
preppy-323 January 2010
15 year old Mike (John Moulder-Brown) gets a job as a towel boy in a seedy British bath house. He becomes obsessed with co worker Susan (Jane Asher) who seems to egg him on but she has two boyfriends of her own. He becomes more and more obsessed and it leads to a disturbing ending.

Depressing and dirty (you feel like taking a shower after watching it) but undeniably powerful. There isn't one likable character in the film--Mike is obviously disturbed and Susan comes across as a real bitch--but you can't stop watching. The imagery, the acting and clever mixtures of sound had me mesmerized. Asher has a risky role playing a horrible woman who's teasing a 15 year old and using two other guys but she does manage to show that she isn't totally evil. However Moulder-Brown really holds the entire movie together. He was 19 when he did this (and looks it) but he convincingly acts like a 15 year old boy who can't control his lust for an older woman. Also both of them have nude scenes but they're not the least bit erotic. However they ARE necessary for the integrity of the story. Also Diana Dors is very funny in a small cameo as a woman who REALLY likes football! I can honestly say I'll probably never see this again--it's WAY too depressing--but I don't deny it's incredible to watch.
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4/10
Shallow end. How times have changed?
torrascotia6 October 2018
A teenager in his first job since leaving school becomes obsessed with a pretty co-worker who he stalks and attempts to impose himself into her affections. This is an interesting movie if you would like to see the UK at a particular time in history, the cinematography is great as is the score, however its simply an unsatisfactory viewing experience. I can see why this may have caused a fuss at the time it was released due to the sexual undertones which may have shocked a 70s UK mainstream. However watching this now its all very tame so the shock aspect simply isn't there. What makes this a difficult watch is the fact the movie seems to be from the perspective of Mike the stalker. Mike is pathetic to watch. He is is simply too immature, inexperienced, self centred and driven by hormones which he thinks is "love", to understand he has nothing to offer Susan, who is already engaged to wed. Susan on the other hand is more sexually experienced and juggling men as well as experimenting with sexual opportunities as they come along. She spends much of her time batting away the childish demands for attention of Mike who she doesn't see as a threat. Well it was the 70s? Neither of the two main characters are likely to evoke sympathy in the viewer as they are both self-absorbed in different ways. As such you really don't care what happens to them particularly so the ending is strangely devoid of emotional depth. I also don't think the acting of the two main characters was very good either, especially Mike who at times it was hard to hear what he said. Neither were particularly convincing in their roles. Its unlikely a movie with this narrative would be made now as it appears on the face of it naive the dangers of stalking, as its played from the view of the stalker quite sympathetically. Its worrying also that some reviewers on here seem to blame Susan for being stalked....which says alot about their views. I get the impression this movie is overrated based on the soundtrack and because Jane Asher stars in it, I certainly didn't find that was a rewarding experience. Watched it once, never again.
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Once seen, never forgotten
grantch28 August 2001
Deep End, along with The House That Screamed, has immortalized John Moulder-Brown in my memory. I saw Deep End but twice ... once on its first release and a couple of years later in Copenhagen, but it is a unique movie which sticks in the memory and cannot be forgotten. With the advent of DVD, surely a company like Anchor Bay should resurrect this engrossing drama. Jane Asher is terrific. And former beauty Diana Dors is a hoot in her cameo appearance. Deep End remains three decades later one of my all-time favorite films.
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6/10
Intriguing little movie
Leofwine_draca10 September 2013
DEEP END is a low-key British movie with plenty of artistic flourishes. It's set at the tail-end of the Swinging Sixties, taking place in a grubby, run-down old swimming baths where new recruit John Moulder-Brown develops a crush and then an obsession with cute attendant Jane Asher.

Like many such realist productions, this is a meandering story which depicts various episodes in the life of its protagonist. His trawls through a grubby, slightly seedy London are brimming with atmosphere and the director seems to take great delight in delivering sleazy locations, from adult cinemas to a prostitute's room. Meanwhile, Moulder-Brown's encounter with a gropey Diana Dors is memorable for all the wrong reasons.

It's hard to dislike this film, which remains unpredictable throughout and builds to a shocking climax. Moulder-Brown (VAMPIRE CIRCUS) is excellent as the protagonist and Jane Asher equally good as the young and lovely object of his affections. Colourful cinematography adds to the experience and makes DEEP END a highly watchable film for fans of the era.
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10/10
Why Can't I get a copy?!!!
pete_r_higgins23 December 2006
This was one of the most influential movies in my life, awakened me to many things including the beauty of good camera-work and multi-layered scripting. A seemingly simple 'coming-of-age' story, highly sexually charged and with deeply significant climax. Why is it impossible to get a copy in the UK of this UK movie, when it seems it is also shown a lot on TV in other countries, yet never in the UK! Crazy! This seems to be just another example of how we Brits constantly put ourselves down, forget about our good work which influences others and are generally our own worst enemies! I guess I have to make a trip to Canada to buy a copy......... and a DVD that will play it!:¬)()
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6/10
Don't enter adulthood until you're completely ready.
mark.waltz2 June 2022
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Obviously a product of its time, this British film is a coming-of-age drama that focuses on a high school dropout who goes to work and a public bathhouse and find his first love, something that he's not ready to handle. The film documents his arriving to work on his bicycle, is meeting with the manager and him being shown what to do, is encounters with various customers and the obsession that grows to the girl he has a crush on.

John Moulder Brown does a fine job as the young man, pretty good for someone with little to no experience, and Jane Asher is very amusing as his feisty crush. Diana Dors is hysterical in a cameo, using the young Brown as a part of her sexual games then throwing him out with no emotion. This gives a good view of the "times, they are a changin'" era, free in many ways but heartbreaking for someone who can't handle it. But not all time capsules are successful, and I just got weird vibes looking in on this one.
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10/10
A wonderful and enjoyable film.
skoogs-311 March 2012
If you can imagine that this is your brief to make a film that must contain all of 1-4. 1)A sleazy swimming baths and steaming wash rooms. 2)A young woman swimming bath attendant and a young boy swimming bath attendant who are the principal characters. 3)Various other characters who visit the swimming baths. 4)Obsessional love. So from the list above an exceptional film must be made. It must hold your attention throughout. It must be fresh; never sluggish. It must have superb camera work. The principal characters must be void of cliché dialogue - and this is the hard part - use ABSOLUTE naturalistic dialogue - or improvised? If you think you can do it better than the above film then please do so. If not then watch 'Deep End'. Not only did I enjoy this film immensely but fell deeply in love (if you'll pardon the pun) with Jane Asher.
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7/10
Stilted. (For better or for worse).
andrea-prodan31 August 2021
Jane Asher comes out best in this freshly approached film whose syntax has something of the Nouvelle Vague, without taking...say... Goddard's risks.

Character behavior is quirky, and sudden tantrums and oddball antics actually give the film it's best traits. Nothing 'corny' here.

Even the Foreigner's view of British seediness (Director is Polish) is spot-on, BUT (and here's the PROBLEM) the acting is generally stilted and as the film goes on, this stilted general tone in the delivery of the dialogue, is SO clumsily present in all the characters, that for an authentic English viewer the film becomes unbearable!

It turns out that the reason is that the entire film is DUBBED...as many actors were actually German!

So, as far as I'm concerned, this is a severely flawed film, which could have been truly excellent. Had it all been shot in England, with a true British cast, and a director more aware of the nuances of the language, it could have been as good as a fine Polanski.

Nonetheless it retains a Halo of 'cult' criteria to be proud of, and despite the wishy-washy finale, it sums up teenage Sex/love obsession pretty effectively.
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10/10
Take a plunge into the 'Deep End'. Weirdly amazing!
thestevemacbeth11 November 2019
I'm trying to wonder how you can make a film about a rundown public swimming pool, a female attendant, a young lad who develops a huge crush on her, a big blond woman who wants the young lad, a lost diamond ring, a married man who is plonking the female attendant into one of the best films that is in my personal top 20!! Take a plunge into the Deep End! It's Great!
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6/10
Dribble…Dribble…Shoot….!
AAdaSC14 April 2017
Teenager John Moulder Brown (Mike) gets an attendant's job at a swimming pool and public baths. His co-worker is Jane Asher (Susan) who shows him the ropes which includes performing extra duties as sexual favours for customers. Brown isn't interested in this side of the job but has no choice when pornographic actress Diana Dors shows up! They have a memorable and funny scene together at the baths. Dors also pops up in a porno film at the cinema when Brown sneaks in after following Asher and her fiancé Christopher Sandford (Chris) who go to watch it. What Brown does next is pretty daring! Anyway, this teenager becomes obsessed with his co-worker and we all know that obsession never ends well…

It's a film set in a peculiar world – that of the sleazy public bathrooms – that portrays a proportion of the sleaziness that must have actually taken place there. So, it's good for that and we do get some peculiar characters. Karl Michael Vogler's swimming teacher will creep you out as he takes his swimming class of young girls. Whilst I could relate to a teenage boy lusting after a woman older than himself, I couldn't relate to Brown's actions. The cinema scene – no way, buddie – he wouldn't have the confidence. It's completely unrealistic and seems more like the director's fantasy. However, it is at this point that you realize Jane Asher is a complete bitch. So, we have two flawed main characters which is OK but also annoying at times. And the ending – well, it's a downbeat film.
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9/10
A fabulously raw, gritty and admirably unsentimental teen coming-of-age knockout
Woodyanders9 October 2006
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This earthy, unromanticized and fiercely unmawkish coming-of-age adolescent angst sleeper centers on awkward, gangly, sexually frustrated virginal blue collar klutz Mike (exceptionally played to moody, ungainly, temperamental perfection by "Vampire Circus" 's John Moulder-Brown), who gets a job as an attendant at a seedy bathhouse. Mike falls madly (and badly) in obsessive love/lust with loose, worldly and assured co-worker Susan (an excellent portrayal by enticing redhead looker Jane Asher), a wild and uninhibited sort whom the other employees hold in disregard. Alas, Mike's crush on Susan isn't shared by the flattered, but disinterested object of his increasingly batty desire.

Set in a very seamy, downcast and markedly unswingin' early 70's slum district of London (one wonderfully delirious sequence takes place in a garishly trashy Times Square-like urban cesspool area), this remarkably fine film is more notable not for what it does, but for what it refreshingly doesn't do: there's no crude sophomoric humor or cheap goopy sentiment, the picture doesn't cop-out with a phony baloney everything-works-out-quite-nicely happy ending, the characters are extremely complex and not always appealing (e.g., the initially endearing Mike becomes less likable and more obnoxious as the story unfolds), and a firmly droll and wry, albeit still fairly sympathetic tone is deftly maintained throughout. Director/co-screenwriter Jerry Skolimowski expertly creates a richly textured and utterly plausible lived-in dreariness and tawdriness, punctuating the basically sober mood and grimy authenticity with occasional moments of hilariously bawdy humor (former 50's blonde bombshell Diana Dors has a sidesplitting cameo as an overweight, aggressively libidinous middle-aged frump who brings herself to an intense orgasm by talking excitedly to Mike about soccer). The bathhouse regulars are especially well-drawn: they're lonely, crotchety, down on their luck everyday folks who are desperate for attention and affection. Charly Steinberger's polished, yet naturalistic cinematography masterfully uses the color red to convoy a wealth of emotions: rage, anger, passion, confusion and ultimately despair. Terrific pounding proto-heavy metal score by Cat Stevens and the Can, too. A sadly forgotten and undervalued gem.
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7/10
Evocative
IanIndependent23 May 2020
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This is one of those films that is rarely seen today. I have no idea why. It is a fascinating film in many ways.

I was about the same age as the male lead, and at school, when this film came out and hadn't seen or heard about 'Deep End' until I read about it recently. The film is very evocative of my teenage years. The public baths, the pregnancy poster, the running shoes, shorts and vest, etc., all bring back clear memories. I was also happily surprised to hear (The) Can in being played on the soundtrack of the Soho scenes.

The film itself doesn't quite work. I'm not sure why and it doesn't make the individual scenes and characters any less fascinating. The cinematography is brilliant, the locations especially the grimy baths are well chosen and the startling use of colour such as the red paint, Susan's yellow coat, the white snow are well thought out and the story of an adolescent with a crush on a older, more experienced, somewhat unfeeling girl is not original but has its own unique aspects.

Asher is excellent as the femme fatale which makes me wonder why she wasn't given many more lead roles in important films. However, for me although John Moulder Brown nearly brings 'Mike' to life brilliantly but unfortunately because of his portrayal or the script the character doesn't quite ring true. The change in Mike from naïve youth to predatory stalker which occurs in various parts of the film and is one of the overall themes is not achieved subtly by either actor or script. This tend to lead the viewer to think perhaps there is schizophrenia involved which I'm sure isn't the intention. Although, perhaps, there is an aspect of split personality and potential for aspect to every 15 year old male so perhaps I'm being a little unfair.

All in all this is a film to watch for it's intriguing story and performances which haven't dated and for it's style which has dated but in a good way.
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5/10
Initially interesting, then just dreary.
thomas196x200012 May 2023
I finally saw this film, remembering it from one of my cult movie books I acquired a long time ago. Always meant to get around to seeing it.

This is a strange film about a young teen boy who is "coming of age" as it were, and fumbling about with his hormones and a major crush in cloudy, dreary London.

His crush in on Susan, one of those disaffected types that works at a "bath house" where he manages to find employment. The manager tells him upon his hire, "work hard, and you might find yourself behind this desk someday!"--as if that were a good thing--while he chuckles and exposes his rotting teeth. Certainly a bit of a metaphor there.

Susan likes to tease the kid, Mike, and other men as well. She shows him the ropes at the pool house, and suggests he "plays along" with some of the female clients in the private baths, to get extra tips. Susan does the same, going a bit further than just playing around.

Susan's sexy teasings lead Mike to have a dangerous infatuation with her, which leads to some bad places.

At the same time, we are introduced to all sorts of characters, none of who are good. It seems everyone is sex charged, in negative ways; a pervy "coach" who likes little girls, Diana Dors thrown in there as an orgasmic patron, sex workers, even a young school colleague of Mike's who wants to have sex with him in her bath. You may ask yourself, what's in the water at this place?

And speaking of this place, for me, the star of this movie is the creaking, grotesque bath house. Shabby and run down, it is exactly the place you would NOT want to get naked and have a bath at. You get the impression that even the water is dirty. I have always had a bit of a phobia of large, indoor bodies of water, and if you feel the same, you will be haunted by this movie. There is a creepy, gigantic pool, which for some odd reason has a cluster of huge steel spotlights hanging above it. Every hallway, every bath is decrepit and falling apart. It looks like something that survived-barely-the bombing of London, so someone bought it on the cheap and made it a bath house. Yech.

What starts as an odd, intriguing film runs out of steam 1/2 way through. The more Mike is obsessed with Susan, the less interesting the whole thing becomes.
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