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8/10
A postmodern film
thao5 June 2011
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I just saw Homicide for the first time and I was quite impressed. It is very much a Mamet film, film about men and their world, with a setting that fits a B film but a deeper message that reaches (and sometimes over reaches) for the stars. I often find my self thinking, why is this man, this talent picking this subject when he wants to make something profound and beautiful? But then you just can't take your eyes of the professionalism and you find your self being dragged into an ultra masculine world full of shallow and surprisingly deep meanings, side by side.

Homicide is one of his deeper films but it is impossible to talk about why it is good without revealing the end of the film, so SPOILERS! There are not many films about a detective who does not solve the case, who starts running in the wrong direction and looses him self on the way. That alone is praiseworthy. What is even rarer is to find a film that manages to make that mean something, give that a deeper meaning. I believe the film is quite postmodern. We can't look for the truth without taking some of our self into that search. Sometimes it just colors our conclusions but at other times it takes us into the wrong direction. Here is a hero looking for a self identity and he mixes that up into the case and gets the wrong answers. The word he was looking for had nothing to do with the case. It was just pigeon seeds. No conspiracy, nothing. Just like everyone told him, someone desperate looking for money. The scary thing is that we all do this, every single day of the year. When we listen to the news, when we justify our actions, when we help our friends. We filter what we hear and see through what we know and hold dear. What comes out is never the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It might resemble the truth, if we are lucky! END OF SPOILERS!!!

This film is not without faults. It feels like a stage play at times. You can feel that Mamet has not managed to lave the theatre behind even though the film is quite visual. The problem is the acting. It is not bad, it's just not film acting, if you get my drift.
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7/10
Excellent film but still a bit of a let-down
bobc-523 December 2000
Bobby Gold, a jewish homicide detective involved in tracking down a cop killer, stumbles onto the shooting of an elderly jewish lady. Although starting only very reluctantly, he gets drawn deeper and deeper into this second case, eventually getting involved with a militant pro-Israel group which causes him to question his own identity as a Jew. This naturally leads to neglect of the first case. Bad things happen as a result.

If you like Mamet films, then you'll certainly enjoy this one. As is typical, his tight dialogue creates wonderful tensions with a minimum of words and the acting is excellent. Unfortunately, the movie fails to live up to its promise. Part of the blame is in a relatively weak finale and a conclusion which goes by so fast you'll miss it if you blink. The real problem, however, is that we never develop any intimacy with the human relationships and personal conflicts which should be the heart of the movie but instead just end up providing support for the actual events taking place. We should be leaving the theater with the story playing over and over in our minds for some time to come, but instead we leave simply having been entertained and enthralled for the duration of the film. Not a bad thing, but not as good as it could have been.
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6/10
Mamet film
SnoopyStyle5 July 2016
Homicide detectives Bobby Gold (Joe Mantegna) and Tim Sullivan (William H. Macy) were taken off the case of Robert Randolph in favor of the FBI. The FBI fumbles the arrest. With mounting racial resentment, the mayor orders the cops to take him alive. Gold stumbles onto a murder of an old Jewish grandmother who ran a store in a black neighborhood. The rumor is that she kept a fortune in the basement. The Jewish family uses their political influence to get Gold as the investigator. Gold is frustrated at losing the Randolph case. He's also not a proud Jew and dismisses this case which would test his Jewish ethnicity.

It's David Mamet writing and directing. The dialogue has his mannered style. It's hard-boiled. The visual style is stark. Some of it is off-putting. He's hitting the Jew card very hard right from the start. It's unnecessary. The central concept is intriguing. However, little things keep annoying me. Gold's gun gets taken and fired by a prisoner but there is no investigation afterwards. It shouldn't be up to Gold. There is supposedly a gunman across the way but they don't close the curtains. There are little problems all the way to the end. The most problematic is that Gold's switch feels too abrupt. In fact, I figured he's lying to them to pump for information. In general, the movie doesn't feel natural. There is an intriguing idea but I can't completely buy it.
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Hugely original Holocaust film
tieman6421 September 2009
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David Mamet's "Homicide" stars Joe Mantegna as Bobby Gold, a homicide detective who is in the process of tracking down a ruthless drug dealer. As the film progresses, however, it breaks away from the crime genre and becomes a haunting examination of self-identity. Bobby, it turns out, has spent his life being bullied for his Jewish ancestry. This has led to feelings of low self worth, anxiety and isolation. As a result, Bobby joins the police force, a conscious attempt to abandon his roots and become a "public servant" of America. More insidious, though, is the implication that those persecuted for a perceived weakness themselves seek power and the authority from which to dispense violence.

Believing his Jewishness to be the reason for his constant persecution, Bobby adopts a completely new persona, often swearing and insulting Jews. He abuses to fit in. But even in the police force Bobby is bullied. Alienated, he becomes a self-hating Jew, constantly trying to prove his worth and gain acceptance.

The film's second act finds Bobby being given the opportunity to help an underground Zionist organisation responsible for bombing neo-Nazi sleeper cells. Unsurprisingly, he is seduced by the power and confidence these Jews exude, and wishes to join them; he seeks to symbolically reclaim his Jewish roots.

Typical of Mamet, the film then reveals itself to be an elaborate con game. The Zionist organisation is merely using Bobby as a means of getting at a list hidden in police storage. They blackmail him and force him to make a choice: serve the Jews or serve the police. This, of course, is hugely subversive, especially in light of Spielberg's big Holocaust list movie released some years later.

The film's final acts find Bobby being forced to choose between being dutiful to the police force (and by extension the US) and being dutiful to Israel (and by extension his ancestors). He chooses the former, but to no avail. Due to several unfortunate events, Bobby fouls a police operation, loses his partner and gets shot in the leg. He is then demoted, the film ending with Bobby shunned by the police force and bitter at being used and mismanaged by his "Jewish brothers". Without friends or family, and betrayed by the Zionist organisation, Bobby becomes further alienated; a wandering Jew, forever without country, family or roots. It's a very depressing ending.

In the film, three demands are placed on Gold: to be a Jew, to understand evil and to do his job. Mamet shows that evil is the betrayal of self (the defamation of oneself in the hope of gaining recognition). In this regard, Gold's name is itself symbolic. He does not recognise his own worth, relying instead on outside validation, an act which symbolically results in "gold" turning into "mud".

Elsewhere Mamet makes several parallels between conspiracies directed against the Jews and various forms of persecution against blacks. The film's title, "Homicide", is itself a pun. Here it means "death of the home".

Other interesting things abound. Roger Deakins' cinematography is gorgeous and Mamet, as is typical, undermines genre conventions at every turn. He has his police hero constantly falling when doing "cool action jumps", police squad cars skid fancifully to a halt for no particular reason, dramatic showdowns occur with something as trivial as a dog and the police officers are always apologetic and polite after insulting one another. And of course, as is expected, Mamet's dialogue is a delight to listen to. It's rhythmically sloppy.

In many ways this is Mamet's last film. After "Homicide" Mamet would write a book in which he explains his new philosophy of film-making. From this point onwards he would strip his films down drastically. The lighting would be flat, the dialogue would be direct, the camera work would be virtually non-existent and the music would be minimal.

Consider this line from Mamet's book: "Acting should be a series of simple physical actions. If the actor wants to know how he should walk to a door in the scene, the director should tell him, 'Go to the door,' and, if the actor presses on: 'Go to the door. Quickly.' Don't act. Don't emote. No motivation. No back-story. No character arc. No discovery. These are indulgences that cannot possibly be manifested physically. Just go to the door. Quickly. Cut. Print. Go home."

Mamet's new found philosophy – which he calls "heightened logic" - is important in understanding why his films are so self consciously artificial, why his stories all revolve around elaborate cons and why he directs such trashy material. On the surface, Mamet's films are all about con-jobs, but covertly, they're all about Mamet's true passion: language. Language is often – if not inherently - selfish. To talk, especially in the way that Mamet's characters talk, is to con. Stunted half sentences and droning repetitions aren't there just for the fun of it. They are successful and less successful attempts at persuasion.

So thematically, Mamet's films are all about "words". Post "Homicide", however, his directing style evolved in such a way as to eradicate everything that detracts from his words. By removing music, cinematography, acting, sound etc, you've essentially cancelled out the director's "vision". And after you've cancelled out a director's "vision" and an actor's "interpretation", nothing remains but the writer's words.

Another reason for the drastic change in style (post "Homicide") is Mamet's belief that neither film nor art has the power to educate audiences, change views or teach. Art, in his very pessimistic view, merely affirms the wisdom of the wise and ignorance of the ignorant. So instead of "content", Mamet's films have avoided "issues" entirely and become preoccupied with a kind of Zen like professionalism. His scripts are attempts to perfect the "word". An effort to keep on working, for no better reason than to hone one's personal skills.

8.5/10 – See Melville's "Army of Shadows" and Lumet's "The Pawnbroker".
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7/10
Allegorical subplot on the American Jewish identity
kemkomacar3 October 2020
One of two subplots of the movie is an allegory on the identity crisis of American Jewish people. While their hearts beat in line with Israel, yet American Jews also identify themselves more with the American values. This movie came out after highly sensational Palestinian resistance movements in the occupied territories when the different approaches between the American Jews and the Israeli Jews became more visible. So, this subplot actually describes the values of an ordinary American Jew who wants to fight against anti-semitism and proudly displays his/her Jewishness, but doesn't want to go against the rule of law and has to learn Hebrew. And unfortunately, he fails to be a part of both groups in the end.
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7/10
Homicide
henry8-37 May 2021
Jewish cop Mantegna is about to blow open a big case when he accidentally becomes embroiled in the case of a Jewish corner shop owner who is murdered. Initially disinterested and keen to sort the big crime, he slowly becomes obsessed with the second case when the motives for the killing become more complex.

A great script from Mamet and a fine turn from Mantegna pull you deeply into the anti semite / zionist underbelly of society. Mantegna is great as a man on the horns of a dilemma between his loyalties to the police and his Jewish background and those he wishes to help. The film is also all the more suspenseful as neither side as shown as necessarily having right on their side.
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6/10
too many questions with not enough answers
mjneu5927 November 2010
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A professional hostage negotiator in a nameless big city police department finds more than he bargains for while investigating the murder of an elderly Jewish shop owner. David Mamet's third film is both cerebral and exciting, but for the first time his confidence as a director may have actually surpassed his skills as a writer. To his credit Mamet (as director) refuses to rely on formula technique. He doesn't, for example, lean on the crutch of music cues to generate easy suspense, most likely because the dialogue itself is Mamet's music, although the deliberate, emphatic pacing of each word might have sounded totally bogus if the script weren't so well written. But it's a pity he didn't extend the same care for language to his story as well. The tricky plot, involving issues of race hatred and cultural identity, is certainly pessimistic (in a shallow sort of way), but it doesn't add anything new to the idea that Everyone Hates Everybody Else, and the irony of the final revelation is deflated by the massive coincidence of a vital clue being revealed as an innocent scrap of waste paper.
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10/10
Homicide
a_baron25 January 2014
I saw this film on video when it came out, and have published two reviews about it elsewhere over the years. Having read all the other reviews of it on this site I can say only that I am astounded both that anyone should think the ending is weak, and that no one seems really to understand it at all. Though Mamet is a Jew, and may have written this with a deliberately Jewish theme, this is a film that is ultimately not about Jews at all.

There are two distinct strands to "Homicide", and they come together at the end. Detective Robert Gold is on the trail of a black gangster who has not simply blood but police blood on his hands. In addition to tracking down this guy he is given the task of looking into what appears to be an attack on an influential Jewish family. Gold resents this not because they are Jews but because he has a more important task at hand, and doesn't like people higher up the food chain pulling wires to curry favour at his expense - as he sees it.

However, this alleged attack is quickly linked in his mind as in other people's with the murder of a lowly, elderly shopkeeper who as well as being Jewish has a semi-secret past. When he finds a piece of paper on a rooftop, a piece of paper with a strange word written on it, he becomes convinced there is a conspiracy at work, and without realising it, becomes drawn into an entirely different conspiracy himself.

Robert Gold is first and foremost a police officer, a specialist hostage negotiator, he realises at the end of the film that this rather than his ethnic or lapsed religious identity is what defines him, and that he has betrayed his own kind. Alas, he is not the only one, because the man he is hunting has been betrayed after a fashion, by his own mother. And when Gold learns the prosaic truth about the murder of the shopkeeper and the true significance of that piece of paper, he realises the extent of his own folly.

Truly a masterpiece.
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7/10
Fast paced crime drama......
merklekranz18 February 2008
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Strong performances by Joe Mantegna, William H. Macy, and others, somewhat offsets the hard to swallow script. Intelligent dialog permeates the film, and it does not lack action. What appears to be missing is an appropriate ending that ties up the many dangling plot threads. "Homicide" has a strong undercurrent of unanswered questions that will gnaw at the viewer following the rushed conclusion. Torn between two investigations, Mantegna's character is pivotal, and in the end his decisions seem neither logical or likely. Nevertheless, "Homicide" is far better than most police drama's and worth seeking out for the fine performances. - MERK
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8/10
The FBI couldn't find Joe Frazier in a bowl of rice.
lastliberal20 November 2009
Give me Joe Mantegna and William H. Macy as partners and I'll guarantee that there will be a movie worth watching. Macy has been moving up the chain, and is brilliant here.

The whole issue of Jewish persecution is woven in the story, and Mantegna is conflicted because he is Jewish, but obviously not a practicing one. As things go, his Jewishness is challenged by the investigation. "You say you are a Jew, and you can't read Hebrew. What are you then?" He is finally confronted with the reality of hate and his role as a cop takes second place to his Jewishness.

It is about realizing that he is nowhere until he finds out who he really is. The language of the police is raw and brings everything out into the open. Detective Gold (Mantegna) doesn't find himself at the end of the film. He has a ways to go, but now he has a direction.
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6/10
Slow Study
arfdawg-115 November 2023
I'm a HUGE fan of Mamet. In fact, I think he is the best and most important living playwright today. So lately I have decided to watch all the movies that he has had a part in writing.

Knew nothing about this flick. Seemed to get good reviews. Well is it good?

Yes, but with a caveat. There is something I have noticed about just about everything Mamet writes. There is a tempo and way of writing that is far better on stage than film.

Characters tend to repeat themselves over and over in certain scenes. And the people they are talking to often also repeat the same words. So think of "I'm not feeling good. I'm not feeling good. You're not feeling good. I'm not feeling good." That sort of thing. Only Mamet does it. Never seen another artist do this.

It works better in the theatre than on film.

Anyway, the movie is a bit convoluted and considering the tiny number of reviews here for a film made in 1991, it must have had a limited audience, likely because of the subject matter.

It's slow in its exposition so be aware that you will actually have to concentrate.
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10/10
Well connected, very good and very realistic
Rodrigo_Amaro15 July 2011
Here's a superb dramatic thriller with a very realistic focus on issues like racism, cultural and religious intolerance, and the raw side of being a policeman.

In "Homicide" Joe Mantegna plays Bobby Gold, a detective over so many pressures, already on the run trying to find a cop killer (Ving Rhames) when he's called to take over a homicide case, the murder of a Jewish lady in what appears to be a robbery in her shop in a poor neighborhood. Since he was the first detective at the crime scene and the one who reported the incident, he's told by his bosses to forget about the other case and keep working on this one; besides these facts he's also Jewish but a non practicant one. As one of those strange twists of fate, the reluctant Bobby will confront himself in his own way of thinking about his religion which he always neglected for seeing himself as part of something weak; and he also enters in conflict with his self and his views of his work during the course of both investigations, which affects his whole way of seeing things how they really are.

Writer and director David Mamet manages to skillfully pull the strings of so many backgrounds and worlds without downplaying situations or disappointing the viewers. Everything works in a perfect tense mood; the pieces are well connected and the ability of surprising the audience is incredibly well done but it only works if the viewers fully understand the movie's premise and the real message behind the case rather than only paying attention to the investigations and the action scenes. One of my favorite scenes is the one where Bobby meets a Rabbi who fears more of his badge than his gun, and he reveals what Bobby really is, in being born as Jew but who can't read words in Hebrew; the turning point for the detective to see what he really is.

Mantegna comes with one of his best performances as the hard working detective who at the end of the film realizes how insignificant his instincts were, since he end up betrayed by himself for not seeing that the whole missing piece in this crime puzzle was already in front of him. Also here with a great performance is William H. Macy, playing Mantegna's tough partner. There's so much to be said about "Homicide" but it's better not or I'll spoil the amazing surprises this movie has. 10/10
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7/10
The first 75 or so minutes were excellent...
paul-685-66457527 June 2016
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After an excellent start, the movie took an unexpected turn for the worse starting around the break-in scene to this nazi (deliberate lower-case spelling) store. So I ended up with mixed feelings even after having read numerous reviews and after re-evaluating my initial impressions.

I love David Mamet so I don't have the heart to give a low rating because I don't want to spoil the average.

Now I come to my biggest gripe. Joe Mantegna is a superb actor who shined in, e.g., House of Games by Mamet but he is miserably miscast here. You see the truth is that no gentile can ever play a real Jew, not even a secular one. Well, there is one exception to this rule I am aware of, namely, Armin Mueller-Stahl. I can also imagine Robert De Niro playing a Jew (he did more than once) but even that is a stretch. Joe Mantegna? No way. Even Rebecca Pidgeon who is a converted Jewess in real life is out of place here.

Anyway, despite not liking this movie and even some of his other ones as well, David Mamet remains one of my favorites.
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1/10
Evil is in group, not the dream
ghigau2 January 2004
Good people become bad in a group. They lose their vision when it is subverted by the group vision. You see this in government. You see it in religion. You see it in this film. Gold knows what is right. He is offended by a black city official's anti-semitism. He is appalled by the Nazi atrocities against Jews. He wants to help, only to be betrayed by Jews who hold their cause above their humanity. Unto yourself be true.
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An interesting Mamet mystery, but with a weak ending.
fedor87 January 2007
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A very interesting mystery thriller which unfortunately completely falls apart in the last third.

Mantegna, playing a Jew, behaves in an increasingly absurd, unconvincing, and baffling way in the last third; he suddenly becomes a proud Jew who wants to fight for "the cause" and even blows up a Nazi owner's store to make his older, new Jewish acquaintances accept him as a brothers-in-arms Jew. Then there is that scene with him and Rhames which just lacks realism. But the most disappointing thing about the movie is just how totally illogical the final twist is; the ending basically throws the entire movie's events upside-down on its head, and absolutely nothing adds up! Apparently he was set up by the secret Jewish organization in order to... what? It isn't clear at all.

Let's start from the beginning: Mantegna totally coincidentally stumbles on a murder case with an old Jewish lady, and in no time is he re-assigned from an old case to that Jewish-murder case by powerful, rich New York Jews. He is then, as we find out at the end through that silly twist, lead on by the family of the dead Jewish lady to believe that someone is trying to kill them from a roof, where they evidently put a man to play a killer, and where they planted a piece of paper with a pseudo-name of Hitler's written on it, implying an anti-Semitic plot. Mantegna is then, once again, set up by the Jews - in a library - where he is fooled into discovering a secret Jewish military base in an old building. The old Jews tell him to give them a piece of paper; a list of names. After he says he can't because it's a piece of filed-away police evidence, they get all sulky and annoyed by his lack of "Jewishness". This gets Mantegna to feel so extremely guilty that he wants to make it up for them: he finds a Jewish woman he met previously and somehow knows before-hand that she is also involved. How the hell did he know that?! Absurd. Then she leads him on to blow up the Nazi owner's store, but it is he who volunteers to do it. How did "they" know he would volunteer? Shaky credibility there. And then the Jews blackmail him with photos of him blowing up the store if he doesn't give them that list.

So what's the story here??!... The Jews set him up so that he would blow up the store? And why?: because that would force him to give them the list. There is only one problem with that: he wouldn't have had the list in the first place if the Jews hadn't given him the murder case! The movie makes no sense at all. It turns out that the murderers of the old lady were some black kids, and that Mantegna was set up. That's all we ever find out. What we don't ever find out is: 1) was there a Jewish terrorist group? 2) If they did exist then why frame Mantegna? 3) How would they possibly know how Mantegna would think, act, or react in a SERIES of different situations and discoveries during his research of the case? 4) Above all, how the hell did they know he would be a Jew who would develop extreme feelings of guilt in such a short period of time for "neglecting" his Jewishness? Mamet has totally screwed up with the logic this time. While the other two movies I saw were sometimes far-fetched, they never lacked logic and a credible conclusion. This time around, however, Mamet leaves so many loose ends that the viewer can only finish the movie feeling confused and somewhat disappointed.
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7/10
"Its time to give up when you start cuming with the customers"
samuelactually18 August 2012
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Wiki plot premise; Bobby Gold (Mantegna) is an inner-city homicide detective on the trail of Robert Randolph (Rhames), a drug-dealer and cop-killer on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List. En route to nab an accomplice of Randolph, Gold and his partner Tim Sullivan (Macy) happen upon a murder scene: the elderly Jewish owner of a candy store in a black ghetto has been gunned down, reportedly for a fortune hidden in her basement. The deceased woman's son, a doctor, uses his clout to have Gold assigned to the case in the belief that Gold, himself Jewish, might be empathetic to his plight.

My comments; This is a story with some interesting themes Like Mamets later film Glengarry Glen Ross, the main protagonist has a gift with words and spinning fantasies. Like the salesmen in that movie, detective Gold has the gift and uses it to convince suspects and witnesses that everything will be OK as long as they do what he says.

This gift makes him a skilled and valuable member of the police force and of his smaller team of detectives. The twist in the story is that he gets caught up in his on fantasy and is first manipulated and then consumed to the extent, his colleagues and those he has made promises to are let down {I wont give away the ending}.
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6/10
Too short for its slow pace
athena2420 January 2014
I have deliberated whether to give it a 6 or a 7. From my point of view it should be somewhere around 6.5, but I think that a score of 7 would be to high for it.

The good about 'Homicide' is the story and the fine act. I always found Joe Mantegna to be a good actor, playing smart, talkative characters. The plot is nice (though have some flaws).

The main problem of the movie, in my opinion, is the slow pace. It takes about an hour till things start rolling. Its' pace and the twist at the end reminded me of Francis Ford Coppolas' 'The Conversation'. But its' shorter, and not as satisfying as the latter.
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7/10
Good drama , but the ending is rather clumsy
Maziun1 November 2013
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"Homicide " is a movie from David Mamet that feels like a movie , instead of stage play like his other movies. It's surprising well directed . It has a dark , gritty feel . The dialogue are great , after all it's a trademark of Mamet. The actors are allowed to show emotions and they gave energetic performances.

Joe Mantegna is great in the main role , even better than he was in "House of games". Of course he plays now a different character and is the main star. His character is tough and independent , yet his also a good man . Mantegna shows the transformation of his character in a very believable way . I was also surprised and delighted to see William Macy as a tough guy for once instead of his usual "shy guy" role. Ving Rhames gives a good episode. Anyway the acting is rally good here and even Rebecca Pidgeon (Mamet's second wife) is watchable.

"Homicide" is a good drama about identity , about discovering one and losing another . It's a sad , bitter and very real life movie. The final exchange of looks between Mantegna and the prisoner reminds us how evil very often comes from the need to do good.

The main problem is the ending . It works as a drama , but from logical point of view it's one big plot hole. 1) Was there a Secret Jewish organization or not ? I have seen this movie two times and it's still a confusing thing . Personally I think they were arms dealers. 2) It really doesn't matter who they were . The point is that the whole operation was a trick to convince Mantegna to give them the list . The problem is that a) they couldn't be sure that Mantegna will find it (he did find it very accidentally) , b) he couldn't give the list to them , because it was locked in police headquarters. I thought (the first time I've seen the movie) that "Homicide" will end with Mantegna stealing the list from the headquarters and getting fired. They were able to blackmail Mantegna with photos , but they couldn't be really sure that Mantegna will care so much to personally destroy the shop. 3) In the end the Jews failed because Mantegna is fired from police and he won't be able to steal the list , even if he would want to. So the lists lies in the police headquarters and they are left with nothing despite so much work…

I give it 7/10.
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9/10
The Destructiveness of Taking Seriously the Question, "What Are You?"
jzappa13 October 2010
There's a scene in Homicide when a police detective uses the phone in the library of a moneyed Jewish doctor who's grumbled about shots being fired on the roof. The detective begrudges being pulled off a high-profile drug bust because the influential doctor has asked for him. If we had the same amount of time and space to contemplate what we say as it does to write it, we'd all sound like writers. And standing at the phone, the detective lets loose a rigidly interlaced, giftedly prearranged, impeccably performed river of four-letter vulgarities and anti-Semitic comments. Only Mamet could write, and maybe only his then favorite actor Mantegna could play, this dialogue so frankly and persuasively, and yet with such spoken fluency that it has the autonomy of ad-libbing. Then the cop turns around...and he sees that he's not alone in the room. The doctor's daughter, in one of Rebecca Pidgeon's strongest, and smallest, performances, has heard every coarse, vinegary word. She knows something we also know: This cop's Jewish himself. And because she heard him, she compels him to face what he's actually saying.

Set in a nameless, menacing city that's all antiquated storefronts and squat apartment buildings, this low-key but complex web of enigma and suspicion reminiscent of the dialogue-driven narratives of classic Hollywood, is about a man awakening to himself. As the story begins, Detective Bobby Gold, the Mantegna character, is a cop who places his job first, his individual selfhood last. He does not think much about being Jewish. When he gets in a fix with a black superior who calls him a kike, he's all set to come to blows, but we intuit that his resentment develops more out of departmental enmity than an individual feeling of offense. Throughout the movie, Mamet's characters exercise the most candid street language in their ethnic and licentious back-and-forth, as if somehow getting the spite open to the elements is a step forward.

Gold's fuming about the doctor because the murder of the doctor's mother was the occasion of Gold being pulled off the big drug case. The mother, an obstinate old lady, ran a cornerstore in a black ghetto. She didn't need the money, but she declined to move, and she's shot dead in a robbery. Bobby, speeding toward the drug bust with his partner, comes across the scene of the crime by chance. "I'm not here. You didn't see me." But the old woman's son, who has sway downtown, wants him assigned to the case. Because Gold's Jewish, the doctor thinks, he'll truly be concerned. The doctor has the wrong man. What Mamet's having a go at here, I feel, is uniting the composition of a thriller with the gist of an identity transformation. The two cases get all mishmashed throughout, the black dealer on the run, the murdered old lady, and, from a theoretical angle, Bobby's not going to be able to solve who did anything until he solves who he is.

Mamet owns the copyright on oblique, repetitive dialogue steeped in pathos, and this third directorial effort, a great example of a film whose bare-bones VHS and DVD releases go out of print and are salvaged by the relatively recent cinema aficionado DVD collective distributions, namely Criterion, hisses with liveliness and kick, and with offhand colloquial dialogue by Mamet, who takes down-to-earth dialectic design and abridges them into a form of hardened, straight-thinking verse. He's a filmmaker with a lucid awareness of how he wants to advance. He applies the rudiments of time-honored standards, the con game, the mistaken identity, the personal crisis, the cop picture, as scaffold for movies that ask questions like: Who's real? Who can you trust? What do people truly want? Here he has more than a few of his favorite actors, who've made their bones in Mamet stage productions: Mantegna, the now veteran Macy, Jack Wallace, the intriguing character actor/magician Ricky Jay.

I must concede that once again with Mamet's work, I get the impression that the actors are so tied down to the stringent verbatim requirements of delivering his dialogue that they can't entirely let go, be spontaneous, but force a repetitious of something that must be just so. But nevertheless, they seem to genuinely listen to each other and respond, to have shaped around Mamet's steel architecture. After all, the emotional thread is there, and it's strong. A consistent yarn in Mamet's film work is his intellectual use of editing, combining one shot to the next to elicit a line of reasoning, so we make clear sense of the emotions extracted by his story. We feel it even before Gold, or we, realize his relationship to the significant situation, his stakes in it, his fears and desires, and most of all, his challenges. He and all his partners are guys with contour haircuts who smoke cigarettes like they require them, not a cast of weather-beaten teen coverboys. They're middle-aged, stressed and weary. And Mamet makes them clear from their present actions. We get the impression that Bobby Gold is not in harmony with his Jewish identity as, like many of his partners, he has let the job replace the person. Gold has become so case-hardened, he doesn't even know how he sounds, until he hears himself through that woman.

Mamet's dialogue may be extremely mannered and lyrical, but it still serves the story the right way: It evokes, not decides, the reading of a scene, calls up the imagination to give a minimal context upon which the actor establishes character. Evocation, imagination, minimalism, character: Right up the alley of every good writer in every medium it concerns.
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9/10
David Mamet's Best Film?
gavin69424 May 2016
A Jewish homicide detective (Joe Mantegna, who is not Jewish) investigates a seemingly minor murder and falls in with a Zionist group as a result.

I can't say I have seen all of David Mamet's films, but I have seen enough to know that he is an excellent writer of dialogue. He is a solid director, too, but it is the dialogue that sets his films apart. And this is no exception, going between a good cop story and a much deeper exploration of what it means to be Jewish. (What is the meaning of the Esther scene? I don't know.) What does it mean to be Jewish? But really, what does it mean to be anything? I can't really identify, because I am a great many different ethnicities and feel no allegiance to any one or feel that one is "who I am". Can a bloodline really define who a person is?
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9/10
An Unlucky Man
RainDogJr23 December 2009
Warning: Spoilers
I realized about the existence of HOMICIDE, through the website of the Criterion Collection, around this year's July. It was announced in the Criterion site as one of their coming soon titles (it was released three moths ago) so and since it gained my attention more than other Criterion titles I immediately investigated about the existence of its R4 DVD. Turned out it does existed, but I wasn't able to find it at my usual store. Last weekend in a walmart I decided to check out the DVDs and to my surprise and joy there it was the R4 DVD of Mamet's 1991 film.

Joe Mantegna plays a Jewish detective (Bob Gold), and is like we are always ready for the more conventional things, ready to accept and enjoy those things just because we like Mantegna's character. Mantegna's performance is great and that is part of why when the whole thing is conventional material we accept the whole thing, we really enjoy it. I mean, the film begins with the FBI dropping a case that now out detectives will take (Mantegna's detective and the partner, Macy's character, Tim Sullivan), and is just like the conventional problems for our characters, they did their job just about fine but still they get the blame. The main issue here is that these two, Bob and Tim, gain us immediately, there is enough to see that both are good cops and, principally, there's this part in which we see that both are real partners (just after we know that Bob is Jewish). The film continues to be a simple cop film, and I loved those moments: is like, Bob ain't a very lucky man and finally the moment he is going to work on a really big case (words about how is bob) the moment we confirm about his lack of luck.

It's just about having Bob into something and something else that seems more important going on

Maybe going for the conspiration thing was the move expected by us but is like Mamet reminds to us that this is all about a man, a man who is Jewish but can't "" , a man who has no family, a man, I will for once cite the description that comes in the box of the R4 DVD, who thinks is doing the right thing. It's pretty darn hard the ending because it makes you think, it makes you think in Tim getting killed but mostly in what Bob is thinking after receiving the promised help of a random guy who shot his family and was treated fairly well by Bob. It's not satisfying as a conventional thriller but that's why it's great, and hell just seeing Mantegna going for this and going for that is a joy (Macy is not really that many minutes in the screen). 9.5 out of 10
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3/10
Not nearly as good as I hoped for
Robodok8 April 2001
As a big fan of David Mamet's films and plays, especially his first film House of Games that also starred Joe Mantegna, I was expecting great things from this film. Instead, I found myself annoyed by the film's superficiality and lack of credibility. Racial slurs are thrown about without any feeling or meaning behind them, in the hopes of setting up a racial tension that for me never materialized. Identity is totally reevaluated and men become "heroes" for no apparent reason. Because of his oaths taken as a cop, the lead character adamantly refuses to perform one relatively small action that would harm no one and could possibly save lives, and yet performs another action which is very violent and VERY illegal, but then still refuses the minor action. In addition, a highly unbelievable subplot involving a man who has killed his family is introduced just for the sake of a plot point that was all but advertised with skywriting, and the cop's reaction to that occurrence stretch credulity way beyond all reasonable limits. Needless to say, after expecting another exciting thriller from David Mamet, I was extremely disappointed to say the least. 3 out of 10.
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Problems in the narrative will bother some viewers but mostly fans of Mamet will find what they are looking for
bob the moo15 March 2007
While on his way to the case that will make his name, homicide detective Bobby Gold gets sidelined to the scene of a murder of an elderly Jewish woman in a candy shop. Present when the family arrives, Gold is then transferred from his case to this murder – much to the annoyance and sympathy of the rest of his team. At first Gold resents the assignment and doesn't believe any of the paranoid theories about the murder put forward by the family, but digging deeper he finds there may be more to the case than he first thought.

I came to this film because I generally like the work of Mamet and specifically the great pattern and flow of dialogue that he delivers. And yet again, in this regard, I was not disappointed because the film does have a great flow to the script that gives each character energy and presence. I always struggle to describe what it is Mamet does (and have failed here as well) but it works and those that know of it will find more of it here. The problem for me does rather lie in the narrative though. The ending is quite unsatisfying and leaves many questions unanswered. Now, to me, I could accept this if the film was about Gold rather than the two cases in play, and, in a way I think that was the intension. However the script is not strong enough to make the film all about his character – which is a shame because I wanted to understand him more.

Mantegna delivers the character well anyway. He is the heart of the film and his presence and delivery bring out Mamet's script. He is surrounded by a famous support cast, all of whom do equally as well with the dialogue even if they have lesser roles. Macy, Guastaferro, Wallace and others all turn in good support. So mostly a good film and certainly one that will appeal to fans of other work from Mamet. The narrative may leave some viewers feeling a bit disappointed but it still has enough forward motion and energy to engage throughout.
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9/10
The Nature Of Evil
seymourblack-18 August 2017
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The two criminal investigations that are launched early on in this crime drama provide the backdrop for an even more powerful story that unfolds as a homicide detective becomes embroiled in a journey of self-discovery that leads to his downfall. Issues of race, religion and loyalties suddenly loom large as he tries to come to terms with his own identity and in the process, loses his objectivity and his professionalism. The consequences of his actions then prove to be far more devastating than he could ever have imagined as he gradually comes to recognise "the nature of evil".

As Homicide Detectives Bobby Gold (Joe Mantegna) and Tim Sullivan (William H Macy) speed through the streets of their city on their way to speak to the brother-in-law of a dangerous drug dealer/cop killer, Gold feels highly motivated because he knows that if they can apprehend Robert Randolph (Ving Rhames), they'll gain plenty of kudos and recognition, not least because this particular criminal had previously humiliated the FBI by escaping their clutches, even when he was massively outnumbered by them The detectives' journey gets interrupted, however, when they come across another crime scene and Gold discovers the dead body of an elderly Jewish woman behind the counter of her candy store which is situated in a black ghetto.

Gold's frustration about being delayed in his pursuit of Randolph soon heightens after he gets assigned to the murder case because the victim's son, who happens to be a wealthy doctor with friends in high places, was able to pull the necessary strings to make this happen. The doctor's motive for doing this was because he believed that, as a Jew himself, Gold would recognise that the murder was a hate crime rather than simply a "robbery gone wrong". Gold, who's first and foremost an honest cop, tends to believe that he's dealing with a straightforward murder case and initially regards the victim's family as rather hysterical and paranoid.

In his subsequent dealings with the Jewish people he encounters, Gold is regularly patronised, treated contemptuously and repeatedly urged to abandon his normal neutrality and do whatever is needed to protect his own people. As Gold is a non-practising Jew who has never previously felt particularly Jewish, he starts to think more deeply about where his loyalties should lie and as well as starting to believe in the existence of a conspiracy, allows himself to be recruited into a militant Zionist group with whom he participates in the bombing of a property which is being used by a Neo-Nazi group. The group that he'd worked with then use his commitment to their cause to blackmail him and the slippery slope that he finds himself on, eventually leads to him being given a knowing glance by a man who, some time earlier, at a time when he wasn't interested in listening, had offered to tell him how to solve the problem of evil.

Joe Montegna does a fantastic job of making his character's malleability seem credible and is even more accomplished in the natural way in which he looks so ashamed when Gold suddenly realises that an anti-Semitic rant he'd indulged in had been overheard by a member of the doctor's family. William H Macy is perfect as Gold's Irish partner who keeps his feet firmly on the ground at all times and Ving Rhames makes a strong impression in his important supporting role.

The movie's story is told with great precision, intensity and pace and the kind of mesmeric quality that's a familiar feature of David Mamet's work. It's fascinating to watch and for some unaccountable reason, despite its numerous merits, still remains criminally under-appreciated
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8/10
On Becoming a Part of Something
Quinoa19849 September 2021
This is said at least a few times if not more by the lead character Detective Bob Gold of Homicide, and this I might call it a striving seems to be his problem in the film. Since we're taking Jews here, it seems as though he either forgot or never heard or should've taken more to heart one of the great axioms by a Jew, Groucho Marx, when he said "I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member."

To me that's what Mamet is after here, as even though he doesn't neglect a narrative or the conflict for the detective between the two cases before him, the Big One for what seems to be more like the kind of case one saw in Police procedurals all the time but on a more realistically mounted scale or the seemingly minor shooting of an old Jewish grocery store owner who happened to be running guns for a time and had more or less a super closed-off but powerful sect of Jews with guns (and, rightly so, fighting anti-semites and Nazis where they might me), this is a character study ultimately about this man and the problem of being a "part" of something.

Mamet doesn't wrestle with or confront how so many many many cops are racist as are so many corresponding limbs of law enforcement and justice - and despite what is said, the majority of people, whatever race or ethnicity, look at Jews as *white* even if/when a name like Gold comes up - but at the same time Mamet also doesn't shy away from showing cops to be super hard-headed assholes and, actually, anti-semitism is not something that would be uncommon in a world where Black men can have some measure of equal footing, if not in some cases more power, and the vast majority of whites are Irish (and here I go stereotyping, but what're you gonna do). The Cop as a Club part is pretty clear and the conflicts in the drama are minor and major, ie will Bob be pushed into going into the evidence locker to get that list for Ricky Jay and those guys, and will he be there to back up his fast-talking but decent hearted buddy (William H Macy in a solid role), yet what impresses me more is that Mamet didn't shy from Jews being their own kind of exclusionary group - to, specifically, another Jew.

This is more personal for me as it's something I've seen and dealt with in my life as someone raised Reform - and guess what, not only can I count on one hand in the last decade I've worn a Yarmulke but bacon and lobster are reasons to keep on living - and as my name and look isn't outwardly Jewish it rarely comes up if ever.... except when I was younger and it did, and while I won't go into a long story I've experienced anti-semitism (and the "K" word) more than once.

So, how the world of Orthodox or even Conservative Jews, the metaphorical (or is it literal) umbilical cord tied to Israel, how symbols are viewed (that one guy in the library is a terrifically written and subtly played scene) and not seeming to be Jewish enough because one can't make out Hebrew words on a page, that all rings true and authentic and Mamet walks this very fine line as a storyteller using Jews as people who are very powerful and yet greatly oppressed at once, that the fight against Anti-Semites and Nazis who use rats as propaganda on fliers must be stopped... but does one lose one's individuality in the process?

Does the power come from defense? Maybe. But it doesn't make them any less of a club or exclusionary or look at Bob as not *quite* one of them when he wants to try to get closer to their world - another great scene in this vein comes when he's on the phone with his cop friend blabbing in the Jewish house he's doing police work in about how awful the place and people are... and Rebecca Pigeon is right there in a cringe reveal that I'm still feeling as I write this review. I think what this all boils down to is that this a sharp and incisive character study with some beats that, at least at this time in Mamet's life and political outlook, let the audience figure out where they may or may not stand.

I's a morality play with almost as many F-words as Glengarry Glen Ross, at least in the first half, it asks more questions questions it could hope to answer, it ends with a helluva anti-climax (or even a series of them), and he has Roger Deakins to make this dark existential reckoning have depth and shadow and to never feel ripped out of a specific place and time.

Last but not least, Ving Rhames shows up (near the end) and almost manages to steal the movie away. What an actor!
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