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5/10
Technically Well Made But Overly Familiar
FightingWesterner12 December 2009
Local railroad boss William Atherton sends hired killers Jeff Kober and Bruce Boxleitner to get rid of pesky landowners like Ernest Borgnine, who refuse to sell out. Complicating things for Atherton is progressive thinking railroad executive Jack Noseworthy and Borgnine's hired hand Casper Van Dien.

A competent cast of familiar character actors try hard, but this is pretty much done in by the extreme familiarity of the material (see Once Upon A Time In The West) and the fact that the script focuses on too many characters at once, resulting in a lot of half-formed characterizations, sort of like a television series highlight reel.

As usual with director Craig R. Baxley, it's well made and the action scenes are expertly handled. However, Baxley (as well as most modern filmmakers) seems to have left out the nuances that made many of the older westerns true classics.

One thing I could never understand about these type of westerns is the railroad's desire to to take the whole ranch in order to lay a single five-foot wide track. Didn't those wackos ever hear of an easement?
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4/10
Just a right of way,
bkoganbing13 August 2013
Casper Van Dien stars in Aces 'N' Eights as a former gunslinger in Jeff Kober's band of thugs for hire who up and quits and decides to settle down and lead a peaceful life. Rancher Ernest Borgnine takes him in and life goes well.

That is until Kober's murderous band gets hired by William Atherton of the railroad and he wants a lot of ranches cleared out. And Kober is a man who enjoys killing to make that happen.

I have to say this was a strange western for someone who's seen more than his share. Most of the time if the plot involved the railroad coming through it was a good thing and it was bad guys who had insider knowledge of that happening trying to push people off their land. In some cases it was the railroad, most famously in the Tyrone Power classic Jesse James that was strong arming people off their property, but just killing them? After all, the railroad just wants a right of way, enough room to lay down their tracks.

Which made this western a rather dubious proposition for me. Still there's enough action to satisfy any western fan. There's also an adroit performance Bruce Boxleitner as one of Kober's men who plays a distinctly lone hand.
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4/10
DVD Perdition
JoeB13117 August 2008
Yes, sadly, we have a look into DVD Perdition, where ex-actors who used to be something are consigned to doing bad films.

This film has three guys who used to have name recognition- Casper Van Dien, Bruce Boxleitner and Ernest Borgnine. Hell, Ernie won an Oscar. (He's also 91 and still acting, that says a lot.)

The plot is that the railroad is coming through, and Ernest doesn't want to sell his land. The railroad hires a bunch of thugs, who used to know ranch hand van Dien. A bunch of clichéd western themes, you aren't going to mistake this for Deadwood, that's for sure.

The movie is plodding and slow, there is little chemistry between the characters. The ending is the typical showdown that John Wayne did 50 years ago and much better. Boxleitner could have been John Wayne 40 years ago, but maybe we've outgrown a need for John Wayne.
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While it didn't always succeed, at times I admired the effort
TallPineTree19 March 2008
The railroad is coming and not all people want to sell their ranch to make way for the new rail line. The local officials working for the railroad are violently encouraging the families to sell their ranches at the railroad's price. A railroad official from Chicago has come to help speed matters up, but in a non-violent manner.

Ernest Borgnine is one of the ranchers who are refusing to sell. Working for Ernest Borgnine is a former gunfighter (Luke Rivers / Casper Van Dien) who has tried to leave his violent past behind, and a teenage boy (Michael H. Barnett). Among those working for the railroad is a former gunfighter friend (D.C. Cracker / Bruce Boxleitner) of Luke River.

I generally liked this movie as I favor Westerns. I did feel the script needed more work. I thought there may be a connection between Luke Rivers and the teenage boy - and if there was - I missed the explanation.

Connections/relations/conflicts between other characters could have been developed more. I am uncertain if this is because of the script, the direction, or if the actors didn't have the 'heft' to pull it off. James Stewart, or other 1950s Western actors, had the gravitas to imply much with little.

Because a Mexican shawl is so reminiscent of Clint Eastwood in his 'Man With No Name' spaghetti westerns, Casper Van Dien looked 'wrong' when he took to wearing one late in the movie. Instead of enhancing his gunfighter status, it diminished him in my eyes as he could not compare to Eastwood.

The director has a different visual style. Occasionally his tilted camera angles was distracting. I disagree with his overuse of tight closeups - especially during fight/brawl scenes. I couldn't get involved in the fight/brawl when I only saw the person who threw the punch or the person who received it with no good establishing shots as to which person was fighting who.

I also felt the violent scenes of the railroad enforcers terrorizing the families were too many and went on too long. It was more than I expected from a TV movie. It says something when the credits lists as an actress: "Terrified Woman".

On the plus side, the movie did try to present people on both sides of the conflict being right and wrong, good and bad. You may be right but sometimes it is hard to stop progress. I believe the "Aces and Eights" referred to losing with a winning hand. Within the Western clichés the movie tried to be different, and while it didn't always succeed, at times I admired the effort.
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1/10
Startlingly Stupid Western Disappoints!
vitaleralphlouis8 October 2008
We love westerns and wish there were more of them; but this one was made by people who lack the good sense of a goat.

The story has been told a hundred times about the brave ranchers and settlers trying to hold out against an abusive takeover of their land at unfair compensation. Almost all previous movies were better than this sorry mess. The story is absolutely ruined by the emptyheadedness of today's talent-free film-makers -- who refuse to learn anything from the greats of yesteryear.

To begin with, the picture substitutes excessive violence in place of a good story. The story is actually a muddled mess at best. They use all of the born-stupid techniques that spoil so many recent pictures: bad photography, dreadful editing, wrong-headed camera shots, and one of the new computer-generated musical scores that never ceases to annoy -- and never lets up. Music is supposed to enhance the action, not detract from it.

If you love westerns, skip this stinker. Perhaps Genius Pictures which made it will fade away.
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7/10
A Good Western But Could Have Been A Bit Better.
Pratik1127 June 2008
Its been a long time since I have watched a western and this one, to some extent, did make it worth while watching.

People in a small town are violently forced to sell their ranches at a railroad price as the the on coming railway would go through their land. But the Government sends in their man from Chicago to sort this out in a peaceful manner. And just as things seem to go well, one of the ranch owners is killed in a shootout.

The movie, directed by Craig Baxley, stars Casper Van Dien, Bruce Boxleitner, Ernest Borgnine and Jeff Kober.

As much as I liked this movie and as much as I like to watch westerns, I felt that the script in some areas and that writers along with with the director and the the actors could have done something to make it stronger. Perhaps it was even trying to make some actors be the likes of James Stewart, John Wayne and Clint Eastwood who would have suited more. But never the less it was a good movie and be aware there are some violent scenes that one with a weak heart may not want to watch.
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4/10
Not even Ernest Borgnine saves this bad western!!!
elo-equipamentos17 May 2017
I've been watching western in my whole life mainly the classics and B-movies of fifties and sixties, but new productions using former actors to sell the picture like this is a crying shame, the plot is usual, however the Kober's gang massacre is absolutely senseless, killing for killing is totally lack of intelligence and reason, Carper Van Dien is a regular actor doesn't hold the picture, already Boxleitner has a decent acting together with Borgnine after all not enough among such mediocrity, finally the lack of beauty women in the story is another weak point, although in beginning has some they didn't participating of the movie itself and Deirdre Quinn isn't quite beauty and looks like a nun, anyway a bad movie!!
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7/10
Darn good Western
Wampa_Dan19 May 2008
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***Warning more than likely this contains some spoilers***

Well may I start off by saying that I always have been a huge fan of westerns. My grandfather and I would watch John Wayne movies for days straight whenever I visited and ever since then I check out just about every Western that i can get my greedy little hands on. The problem has been that Westerns went out with Silverado. Even went they try them lately like the big name, and coincidentally excellent, 3:10 to Yuma they struggle at the box office. So what was once America's only original type of cinema and the one time savior of the film industry has been reduced to straight to video (Renagade etc.), or high profile films that wander out to minor theatrical runs (Seraphim Falls etc.) To the former category we add the Casper Van Dien actioneer Aces N' Eights. The results in Straight to DVD westerns has not been good to say the least. They have been plainly awful (Ghost Rock & Renegade), or merely passable fare (Miracle at Sage Creek & Avenging Angel). Which category does this one fall into you may ask, well neither really...

The film starts out with a group of hired guns led by the vicious Tate (Jeff Kober) running a group of people, in Texas, in typical violent Western fashion. This was pretty much the last straw for Luke Rivers (Casper Van Dien) who rides off in search of a better life. The story picks up 3 years later in the Arizona Territory.

As is the case in many westerns a greedy landgrabber Mr. Howard (William Atherton) is keen on buying, or stealing all the parcels of land in the path of the railroad. To accomplish this goal he has hired the aforementioned Tate to deal with some of the more stubborn landowners. The foremost of these landowners being Thurmond Prescott, the amazingly still grinning and spry as ever Ernest Borgnine who has, conveniently enough, taken in Luke. Further compounding Mr. Howard's attempts to grab the land by any means necessary is the arrival of of Jess Riley (Jack Noseworthy) a lawyer from Chicago who has the audacity to actually seek a peaceful resolution to the current crisis, but since when has that made a good western? Therefore, Tate brings on another gunslinger DC Cracker (Bruce Boxleitner) a very mysterious is he or isn't he a bad guy character. Together they attempt to run off the landowner's behind Mr. Riley's back.

***Spoilers*** As one can probably guess the gunslinger's manage to gun down Mr. Prescott, and the reformed Luke is forced to strap on his guns once again as the film builds to a pretty dang impressive showdown between the railroad men and Rivers. This film isn't without share of problems the scenes with the landowner's getting gunned down at times seemed a little redundant and Luke's relationship with the local schoolmarm Jo Tanner (Deidre Quinn) is very underdeveloped. the film clocks in at a brisk 87 minutes and it would've been nice to see them take an extra half hour to flesh some of the relationships out, but don't let that deter you as the script, from Pale Rider scribe Dennis Shryack and fist timer Ronald M. Cohen really picks up more and more momentum as it goes. Veteren TV project vet Craig R. Baxley (Action Jackson & half the Stephen King miniseries ever made) handles the project with a very steady and at times stylish hand. He really accomplishes more than one would think possible on a three and half week shoot. What further propels this film forward is the cast Casper Van Dien has never been better as the grizzled gunhand, Ernest Borgnine is simply unbelievable as his eyes twinkle, he rides horseback with a shotgun, and still looks menacing and he was born in 1917! Jeff Kober oozes menace as Tate, Bruce Boxleitner nearly steals the show (he would have if every one else hadn't been so good as well) as the aging gunslinger. Jack Noseworthy looks and nails his role as the good guy lawyer and Deidre Quinn did very well with what she was given. When all is said and done this is a rip-roaring Western like they used to make and is by far and wide an extreme overachiever in the straight to DVD realm. The last frame felt like a bit of a cop out, but still if you are a fan of Westerns, action, or just good old fun in the movies don't let anything stop you from seeing Aces N' Eights...

7/10

As usual my apologies for my horrid spelling/grammar...
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3/10
Not ace - not an 8
juliencrispin25 February 2022
It's like the guys who do the cheesy Christmas movies decided to do a Western. I only managed to watch 20 minuted of this film and will never get that back. I can't even waste anymore time on it - if you want a cheesy Western with weak acting this is right for you.
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7/10
Good Western
wekirch24 October 2018
The railroad must go through! A reformed outlaw sides with the dirt farmers in a fight with a crooked railroad promoter who uses outlaws to murder the farmers who oppose him. Good script, good acting, portentous music, along with good photography, stunt work and editing make this an above average Western. Uses all the cliches, of course. Lots of fighting towards the end, brutal murders along the way, but surprisingly little gore, which makes the violence all the more effective.
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9/10
This goes beyond the ordinary Western
dale99919 May 2008
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I really like this film better than other westerns because it has a real story that we can relate to in today's world. The acting, cinematography, dialogue, directing and editing all made me feel like I was there experiencing it all. An excellent script with frequent close-ups in so many scenes, not just of the actors, makes this unusual for a Western. A lot of attention is paid to detail, so that with an expression on an actor's face you can see the nuances and what they are feeling and thinking.

The pace of this film lends itself to thinking about what is happening within each character and how they are developing and in some cases changing.

The only reason I rated this as a 9 and not a 10 is due to the amount of violence which takes place. I must say that the entire cast is believable in their roles. Casper Van Dien shows more through his facial expressions than most do. The same could be said about Bruce Boxleitner, but his dialogue also shows the direction of his thinking. I can not leave out the remarkable Ernest Borgnine who plays a strong and determined rancher. An actor new to me is Jack Noseworthy as Mr. Riley who draws a character of some interest as he represents a railroad. William Atherton, whom I've seen many times, played the deceptive banker Charles Howard just right. Not space here to mention each one in detail, but the schoolteacher and young boy are excellent in their characterizations. Jeff Kober as the outlaw without remorse is riveting.

This film brings attention to the Right of Eminent Domain and how the government can take land and homes from people.

But the story also includes how some men tire of taking lives and find there must be some other way of living. "We all have choices...." and "people can change" are the essential messages.
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7/10
Loved it
jewelch27 February 2021
Awesome Western. I have been an Earnest Borgnine fan for many years. Now in his 90's Borgnine still has that twinkle in his eye. He has made many great movies that include The Wild Bunch, The Dirty Dozen and McHales Navy and more too numerous to mention. In this one he is a ranch owner who killers employed by the railroad are trying to run off his land. Of course he says nuts to that and the shooting starts. Casper VanDien and Bruce Boxleitner are also awesome in this. Yes I recommend it. James Welch Henderson, Arkansas 2/27/2021
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4/10
Unecessarily violent horse opera
michaeldmccarthy-7348128 April 2024
Far too much concentration on a relentless series of bloody, sadistic atrocities, committed by pantomime villains, against stock character, seemingly helpless farmers who are trying to resist a railroad land- grab. Even Borgnine, Boxleitner and Van Dien fail to lift this beyond the hackneyed, mundane and largely predictable horse opera which it patently is. Character development is shallow and unresolved, and the limited dialogue also limits any engaging plot development. Even the slight twist at the end, as regards the ultimate demise of the chief "badhat" comes across as a desperate, but ineffective ploy to at least try to depart from total predictability. Just about worth a watch on a rainy afternoon, but not if you've anything even remotely more interesting to do... which would not be hard to find.
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7/10
Pretty good
SanteeFats22 September 2014
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I was surprised at first when Bruce Boxleitner (D.C. Cracker) starts out as a gun thug with a murdering leader named Tate, who is thoroughly despicable and ugly too. He leaves the gang because he will not kill a kid. Ernest Borgnine is the old rancher who refuses to sell to make way for the railroad. So if you have seen this plot before guess what happens now? Ernest gets killed off while in town but so does every one of the gang except, of course, Tate. He has to live so he can die by the right man. Casper Van Dien character also left Tate's gang when Cracker did. Then there is the hot love interest schoolmarm played by Dierdre Quinn. If you watch many westerns you are led to believe that all school teachers are at the least pretty and always falls for the hero. The showdown happens at the ranch property fence. Here a Chicago RR man offers a plan that both sides agree on. So Tate makes his move and shoots at the ranchers. Many of the RR men that came along get shot, Bruce gets shot up and dies. Tate is about to finish Van Dien, who has been shot to doll rags as they say, when the Chicago man kills him. I guess CVD lives to marry the teacher. There a couple minor points that were very unrealistic. CVD fanned his gun. Doesn't work, your shots go all over the place and you have no accuracy. CVD was using a double barrel, breech loading shotgun. He used it one handed, rather hard to be accurate. Also he shot it twice and then without reloading, shot it two more times. Got to love those Hollywood infinite ammo weapons!!!
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7/10
"Friends oughtn't to kill friends."
classicsoncall29 September 2014
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With a title like "Aces 'N' Eights", you know it's only a matter of time before the obligatory reference is made to Wild Bill Hickok's dead man's hand. That was provided by villain turned good guy D.C. Cracker (Bruce Boxleitner) later on in the story, but you know, it's funny because there was nothing even remotely related to playing cards or gambling that had anything to do with the picture. Take another movie with the same title, 1936's "Aces and Eights" starring Tim McCoy; in that one McCoy's character is a card sharp and all around tough guy who's wanted posters tell prospective gamblers to just stay away from him. He could tear a pack of playing cards into quarters he was so tough!

Now Westerns are my favorite movie genre, so don't take what I'm about to say the wrong way. There's only so many times you can tell the greedy land grab story before it gets to be redundant. That's one of the main reasons Westerns eventually fell out of favor with the public, which is why it takes something like Eastwood's "Unforgiven" to encourage the genre's revival. The story here is another one of those formula pictures repackaged and made over the top violent to appeal to Western movie junkies like myself, but after just so many (I've reviewed well over six hundred on IMDb before losing track) it seems more like going through the motions.

Even with all that said I thought this was an OK film. Casper Van Dien made for a staunchly rugged hero opposite Jeff Kober's sadistic Tate character. I started to get a little distracted when Jack Noseworthy showed up looking just a little too much like a young Val Kilmer. Then later on when Monty (Rodney Scott) made his way back to Oak Hill, I got distracted even more when the bruises on his faces kept changing shape and position. But then it's all balanced out by Ernest Borgnine at ninety one years of age! riding horses and throwing down with his shotgun making me wish once again he could have made it to a hundred.
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8/10
Violent But Realistic Horse Opera About Greed and Treachery
zardoz-1323 November 2009
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This above-average but violent made-for-television western pits the villainous land-hungry railroad against defenseless small-time ranchers whose lands lay on the route sought by the railroad. Stuntman/action director Craig R. Baxley helms this exciting little B-movie horse opera with flaws to spare. All the bad guys sport long white dusters. "Guardian of the Realm" lenser Yaron Levy's color photography constantly thrusts you into the thick of the gunfire, and the hand-held camera work lends a sense of verisimilitude to the action that enhances this oater. As the protagonist Luke Rivers, Casper Van Dien is actually tolerable for a change, and the beard gives him a lot of maturity. Late in the action, he puts on a poncho and vaguely resembles Clint Eastwood. Basically, Van Dien plays a gunslinger who has tried to hang up his six-gun and reform himself. Naturally, the villains compel him to strap on his hog-leg one more time. The sturdy cast includes Bruce Boxleitner as a believable gunfighter. Ernest Borgnine of "The Wild Bunch" plays one of the foremost ranchers--Prescott--that the greedy, murderous railroad has been harassing about his land. These villains don't beat about the bush. When they embark on their reign of terror, expect to either wince or grimace at the results. "Sugarland Express" star William Atherton is Howard, an unscrupulous local railroad official who displays no qualms against killing to make a point. Of course, the devious Chicago-based railroad company doesn't want to pay a penny more for the land.

"Aces 'N Eights" springs a couple of surprises along the way without violating any of the formulaic conventions of westerns. The Dennis Shryack and Ronald M. Cohen screenplay observes all the clichés and then wields them with style. For example, D.C. Cracker, the Bruce Boxleitner gunfighter is reminiscent of Ben Johnson's gunfighter in "Shane." Jack Noseworthy of "Breakdown" stands out as a member of the railroad who has come to negotiate a peaceful settlement between the railroad and the landowners. The gunfights are noisy but not bloody. The treacherous hired guns working for the railroad terrorize and murder land owners and their wives to scare them into selling out. The sign of a good movie is that the characters change over the arc of the narrative, and three characters alter their activities by fade-out. The finale is a well-staged gunfight between the heroes and the villains with a surprisingly conclusion. If you enjoy westerns like those that George Montgomery and Randolph Scott made, you'll probably enjoy "Aces 'N Eights."
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