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7/10
Violence, comes from within with no reason?
Vefizoo2 February 2007
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Barda is the next attempt of director Serdar Akar. He has made some remarkable films like "Gemide" and "Dar Alanda Kisa Paslasmalar". With his new step, he tries to bring forth the violence in the Turkish society.

A group of young and gonna-be part of high society friends, gather at a bar they frequently visit. One night, some guys looking awfully scary and dangerous enters and these two classes known to live together on the streets are left to fight trapped in a bar...

Well, to be honest, this is not the best picture from director Akar. Especially the characters of the youngsters are not accordingly established. The court scenes are far from being realistic. Especially the young actors does not seem to be ready for their parts. But the main issue here is that Turkish cinema and Turkish directors do not generally operate as artists who carries on their duty as an observer of the society. This film drives straight into that misty field...

The violence is everywhere in Turkey as well as the world, in the streets, in the metro, at the schools etc. but this somehow seems to be unseen by the Turkish cinema. Because, people would love to sleep and think that everything's going fine as long as the tragedy doesn't touch them. But that's not true at all. The truth is out there, in this film. Although it has some major negative sides, it's a brave step trying to show the reality...

Based upon a true story, what's happening is horrible, unbelievable and unacceptable. But you gotta see it to get to do something about it...

****** spoiler *********

By the way, at the ending of the film, the guys in the jail attacking the others are Zeki Demirkubuz, Cagan Irmak and Serdar Akar himself (the other two being some important Turkish directors). Seems like, the artists are trying to attack the mentality behind these horrible acts. Bad dream, nice try...
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8/10
In some ways better than Haneke
ruhi-yaman22 January 2008
Turkish cinema is constantly maturing. This is one of the best explorations of the social divide and culture of envy present in modern Turkey. Inevitable comparisons are made to works of Haneke, particularly to Funny Games. The film does not have the virtuosity of Haneke, but it also does not have Haneke's patronising, barely disguised sermons against bourgeoisie. The middle class young people are not hedonistic, divorced from reality buffheads. They exist within a different reality from the nether class hoons that invade their world. Some left-leaning Turkish viewers that would like to see any city-dwelling Turk from a non-working class background as vermin will not be pleased. However, social strata in Turkey is not black and white anymore - if it ever were...

It won't be a spoiler to state that the violent scenes are difficult to watch and some might find those out of place in a film that is decidedly anti-violence. To me, the uber-realism of those scenes carried the subtext of the film: Do not kid yourself. Violence is ugly, brutal and it never leads to anything positive. There is no justification for it.

Thanks to the viewer that had recognized the directors at the end of the film. I would have missed that message if it weren't for him/her. Not that it would have made any difference to my assessment.
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8/10
Nice performing from Nejat Isler
cgnkyx24 February 2007
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when i saw it in a dark saloon. I was really scared.. Nice young actors and 5 great bad guys. They are all perfectly described.. Especially Nejat Isler.. He is really strong in this movie. The violence is used very good in the film. Based on a true story is the scariest part of the film. When you watch it you keep on thinking "Dude.. These are all real...Some people have really been beaten like this and some girls were raped in front of their boyfriends.." So if you are ready to see some real violence..I mean Real! ( because these kinds of things happen in world ) Watch "Barda"..Also if you like it you can watch " Gemide " and "Lalelide Bir Azize" too..
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Hard to swallow, deserves "reconsideration"
e_karasan4 March 2007
This is not a Haneke film, they are not in the same league. This fact doesn't harm this special film. It's special because it gives the universal brutality of human nature in a local way. Bad guys are doing wonderful job in their particular performances. Nejat Isler, playing brutal yet charismatic gang leader in a very convincing way. Other bad guys were also doing wonderful job, they are so hateable! Many of movie goers didn't like the "tgg"(reconsider) philosophy in the movie. I don't agree, this is some kind of call for sanity, even after such a brutal experience. Being human or just not being... I highly recommend this hard hitting film, makes you go hmm...
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7/10
"Haneke" influenced disturbing film with an unnecessary "moral final"
cuhadar_e5 February 2007
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I saw this movie in Balçova, Izmir in a theater with a very bad sound and screen quality! So, i highly recommend you to watch this movie in a better theater! While watching the movie, i realized that 7 or 8 couples left the cinema because of its irritating violent scenes which reminded me Haneke's "Funny Games" but Barda is really bloody and realistic. As far as i know, this is one of the most hardest Turkish film with its hardcore torture scenes and vulgar, parental advisory language . So, that's the first reason for you to watch this movie. But, what disappoints me is its very poor final. Because it was completely unnecessary to give people "moral lessons or any misleading thoughts" by making the tortures killed in jail. If the director would have finalized the film without showing us the revenge, this could have been one of the "cult" movie ever made!!! When the torturers were killed in the jail (by zeki demirkubuz..etc), some people in the theater applauded as a reaction of convenience. That was because of moral catharsis that the director made his fatal error by finalizing the film like this. But it is still very promising and unforgettable movie that should be really seen by any cinema lovers! But, don't go with your sweetheart!!!!!
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6/10
mixed feelings
defneover1 September 2012
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I have mixed feelings about this film. It is clearly not a strong movie in terms of technique or form in cinema - although not too bad, either. But, that's not the reason why I think of it as controversial. I rather felt uneasy about the story it tells, the kind of scenes the director chose to shoot to tell the story and the causal links he established between violent action and its possible motivating grounds. First of all, I should note that this movie is based on a real event that happened in Ankara/Turkey in 1997 - so it's not fiction. The director has chosen to present violence in all its brutality and that makes the movie very disturbing for its audience. Throughout the movie I kept thinking whether there would be another way of telling such a violent story without actually turning violence into a spectacle. Assuming that the audience is ignorant about the violence that prevails in Turkish society, perhaps the director has chosen to confront them with an extreme level of violence. However, this runs the risk of turning violence into an event to watch or observe - once again making the audience an external element to the story. In my view, if the director really wants to confront the audience/the society, than he'd need to find a way to make them part of the story and he could do this by presenting violence as a sociological phenomenon, not as an extraordinary, unusual, isolated case. And here lies the importance of the causal link between violent action and the motivation behind it. The kind of explanation for violent action presented in the movie is not clear. I was very confused about the causality the director attempts to establish between violence and the motivation behind it. Does the director see the persecutors as some sort of lumpenproleteriat? Are their violent acts a consequence of the rage against middle classes? Does their class position justify it? Or, are these people just bunch of ruffians on drugs? Is it being on drugs that makes the persecutors violent? Or, is it because of their class position? Does their access to drugs have anything to do with their class position? Or, are they just bad people having fun(!)? Or a mixture of all these factors? It looks like, the director sees some connection between these, but his stance is obscure. I think that makes the narrative unclear throughout the whole movie, and indeed, this fuzziness made me question why I was watching all this violence? Where am I in this movie? Is it just an extreme, unusual story that is almost unlikely to happen to me, or is there a connection between my class position, my gender, my morality etc. and such violence? A director, so willing and so explicit about giving messages could have been much unequivocal on that! I was disturbed by violence, but I didn't like to be confronted only (!) by its brutality. If the director wants to confront the audience for being ignorant to the violence around, then he'd have to find a way to tell the social story of violence, not just show violence. Overall, I think violence in all its sorts definitely needs to be a subject to tackle with in cinema and I liked this movie for engaging me in these questions, but I also think that because it is such a vulnerable issue, the directors should be looking for ways to confront the audience without turning violence into a spectacle external to the audience.
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9/10
The results of lack of communication, social and moral values, the justice system...
soysaldeniz17 April 2007
This movie depicts human relations.It shows the inevitable gaps between people and like the movie "Babel" it also shows how important communication is; because most of the things throughout the movie happen because of lack of communication. It also questions the judicial system in Turkey. People don't understand each other and in fact sometimes they don't want to. Most of the people evaluate others with the things they own, they wear or with their occupations. As if the Social status of a person has become the criterion of being a human. I mean if your social status is low, you are not respected, you are accepted as a "non-human" You see what one can do when he has nothing to lose. "It's only after you lose everything that you are free to do anything" (quote from fight club) Selim and his gang have nothing to lose, so they are free -actually they think they are free to do anything; because what else they can lose? People's non-existing respect? Money? What? The answer is nothing. You can't lose what you don't have. Torturing is their self-masturbation, destruction is their revenge. Yet this is questionable: "Do we have the right to take justice into our hands." Nothing is unreal in the movie. Loved it
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9/10
Hard to abide the realism of this striking movie...
kubilayuguz23 August 2007
Hard to abide the realism of this striking movie...

Not the blood and the excess violence but the pure reality of - how anybody do something like that to other- caused some of the audience leave the movie in the first half.

We have seen these kinds of headlines everyday in the third pages of newspapers (maybe not as barbaric as this) and get used to these kinds of savagery news. But to see this realism in a well-played and directed movie shocked the most movie goers.

These kinds of things is happening all around the world and makes the victims' whole life non-tolerable.

Thanks to Serdar Akar for his plain directing and also would like congratulate Serdar Orcin for his great play as a psychopath. One of my best in Turkish movies.
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8/10
A Violence Movie That May Make You Enjoyed
SamedKahyaoglu3 June 2021
Victims do not play well. First 20 minutes have almost no contribution to the movie. Violence is shown in its raw form. Evil side has better dialogues that are highly realistic. You can laugh even there is violence in scene, reactions are so natural. Character balance is not perfect, like Selim's story. But Nejat plays very well (actually he lives the role.) I could not empathize with the victims. One of my personal favorites but it may be better if they could use first 20-30 minutes better.
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5/10
I could NOT watch till the end
serim-paker5 March 2007
This is one of the VERY few movies i couldn't stand till the end. Is it because the movie is bad? No, Not at all. May be the film was way too good that I Really felt the sorrow of the victims. What hit me for the first place was, the victims were just like people like me or my friends or my family. NORMAL, usual people. Not heroic or "angel-good" movie characters.

With a pure emphatic approach I felt that I would do exactly the same as the victims... Disturbing. A dark catastrophe surrounds you in the dark saloon of the movie. I couldn't stand it till the end. Not to spoil the joy of watching such a good handled movie I will not give any details of the violence but I can not pass prising the cast. The actors are amazing and well fit for their rolls.

If you decide to watch the movie i just wish you GOOD LUCK.
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9/10
crime does not pay
retaw8 April 2009
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Basically this movie tells us the most horrifying thing that can happen to you in a bar with your friends. The teens in the movie are quite innocent, and absolutely do not guess that; people can be that much barbarian and heartless. A small excuse can start this brutality and exactly happens like this in the movie.

You have to be stabilized and strong when you are watching this movie because it contains rapes,cutoffs,beating apparently. And the acting is very realistic which can disturb you, maybe can turn you as nightmares.

They shot the film in a bar at Taksim, when I pass from there I feel horrified.

However at the end, you calmed down a little bit, at least you see 'crime does not pay'
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8/10
Really Good
ercansalih-357377 December 2023
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There are hundreds of films containing violence, but I think the most important feature that distinguishes Barda from these films is that it produces local theses for the violence that has increased in recent years. None of us think that the scenes we watch actually happened, we just say "it's just a movie" and when the movie is over, maybe we think about it all for a few minutes. That's it... The fact that the subject that inspired the movie Barda is completely real makes this movie even more meaningful. It's a movie that gives messages and needs to be learned.

The bad guys in the movie are a group of outcasts who are outside the system.

This gang, devoid of morality, emotion and empathy, takes revenge through violence on the rich babies they see as enemies or envy... Exhaustist Selim, the main hero of the villains, expresses their exclusion from the system, their exclusion, and their repulsion with the following words: ''- Why do I come to this bar in the dead of night? Ha?

Because if I came any other time, the man at the door wouldn't let me in.

He doesn't like my appearance, he doesn't like my movements, he doesn't like my speech.
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2/10
showing the violence is not being creative
abdullahtez11 February 2007
they think that if we show the violence in a different way we will be more creative ...but they do not respect to mother identity..and they don't want us to watch all the film because we couldn't stand it only one hour.... everyone left the place... No human being can afford to stay meanwhile those guys are having fun with the girls that will make you think if they were your girlfriends or anyone you know.We should not make producers think they are on the way to win with this film.We must think clearly that anywhere anything may happen to anyone but the way to be more conscious is not the way on this movie to watch.People that will be conscious by the help of the film are not much more than ones that will probably make those behaviours unconsciously or consciously on another people so this way is wrong to be object lesson
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1/10
Waste of time!
ilkesez-128 April 2008
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I wish I haven't watched even one part of this movie. There is nothing special but violence, rape and great amount of blood. It was incredibly disgusting. I do think that the movie also had the worst reputation ever by the viewers. As far as I remember, it was on theaters only for two weeks. What an unfeasible investment!!! I've seen it on TV, I do tried to be patient during the movie just to be able to criticize in the end. Wathcing the whole movie may be the best way to torture yourself :) I remember the movie Clockwork Orange , and the leading actor who was sentenced to watch such war violence scenes for hours without being capable of closing his eyes.Turkish directors have presented a number of good films which deserve appreciation. Try any of them but "Barda"...
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1/10
terribly fascist
xilo100018 February 2007
non-creative way of telling the story of violence of suburban youth in Turkey. No character is alive. They acts as in theater. There is endless violence without a cause or reason. Its main idea is that: "the judgment system is not enough for satisfying victims. Therefore they should use same violence to create justice" There should be revenge. And in this point, the victims become killers. Time mixing, giving role to famous directors (Zeki Demirkubuz, Cagan Irmak, and the director itself) can not keep away the film from being boring. It is excitement without excitement. The only creative idea is that while someone drinking tea or yogurt don't ask what time is it.
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1/10
this isn't a MOVİE THİS İS A SNUFF FİLM !!!
darkelf_42813 September 2008
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when i've watched "Barda" i was expecting' a quality tension movie but i was disappointed when i saw it.instead of tension i just felt boredom.the story of the movie goes like this

a group of armed bank robbers entered to a bar after the robbery.few minutes later they took few customers in the bar as hostages and after that they begun torturing them until the night's over and cops bust in and arrest all of them

That wasn't the film which makers promised in it's trailers.Film completely filled with torture,beating,rape and murder.i still wonder how could they charge people to see a humans in the movie getting tortured,humiliated and so on.

it's a waste of time if you have passion for snuff films you just can get thousands of small videos in the net and i wager they're more high quality than this low budget crap
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4/10
A movie inspired by an actual event.
durusuarsa1 September 2023
The film is also known for its 'Haneke' style. It has very striking and realistic scenes that are not uncommon in Turkish cinema. However, I don't think such a film is for the benefit of society, and it's nothing new to discover cinematically. Some of you may find me ruthless with points, but as a Turk, I think movies like this are not appropriate.

The film must have a value that it will add to the person, it must be an emotion. At some points in the movie, an attempt was made to shed light on the inner world of the characters, especially for Selim, whom we see as the leader of the gang. However, I don't think this is fully achievable. A little more discussion would have been nice. I don't want to give spoilers. Yes, the acting etc are good, but I find it weak in terms of subject and scenario.
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